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Reply #1 - 08/05/17 at 20:49:54
 
Should we ask which guy, the Senator or the "newsman"?
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Reply #2 - 08/06/17 at 01:57:45
 
If you think the information is incorrect, then you can talk ugly about the reporter. McCain is a total creep in my eyes. How that jakkass manages to keep getting elected is beyond me. I asked Bot what was up with that a long time ago. He didn't have much in the way of explaining it. I guess the media just never wanted to shine a light on his real history. The masses are very receptive to people who are called heroes. I'm careful about who I agree IS one. He isn't, in any way, any kind of hero.
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Reply #3 - 08/06/17 at 10:05:52
 
You know Jog, the reality of this report is beyond my minds ability to grasp, as to why.....

It's like Kennedy and Mary Jo K.
How can a person be allowed to walk away from such actions without consequences?
It disrupts my perception of how justice, and accountability,
are bedrock to our civilization.
The realization of it not, would then allow myself to toss aside any moral compass, and do what I want, without fear of humiliation, etc.

I default to my faith.
With a teacher, and example, that guides me to a sustainable lifestyle.
I believe he will be my final judge.
I believe my actions will have consequences, for myself, and for those who I claimed I loved.
If I am a healthy tree, my fruit will be good to eat, my seeds will spring forth.....another healthy offspring, and another still, forevermore.
I believe this with every fiber of my being, so it is I who am responsible to myself, and future generations, if I can die peacefully, a life knowing I had linked goodness, to goodness, through my works on earth.
No judge, or court, or any other entity on this earth, can tell me otherwise, for the truth of who I am..... can never be denied, ever.

And too, I believe this is the fate of all of us.
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Reply #4 - 08/06/17 at 13:08:46
 
If you haven't seen enough to be able to admit that Justice is different for the peons versus the rulers, then you are intentionally blind. Ray is seeing it.
Ray, you know that we are charged with doing right. Sure, we fail, but we know and we feel ashamed and regret, but the rulers walk away and prosper in the insulation of the corruption they are part of. If they had every paper in America tell us about the double standard and explain that They can do things that would have a peon  imprisoned for life, you would still have the moral compass that demanded better of you.
Hillary walked, after Comey SAID
Anyone else in the same situation would have no reason to expect to Not be Prosecuted.

What do those words Mean?
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Reply #5 - 08/07/17 at 07:56:28
 
Watched the doc on forestall not to long ago.
The rocket launches were blamed on faulty circuitry.
I don't recall they said anything about McCain.
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Reply #6 - 08/07/17 at 12:25:53
 
Yes, the whitewashed report says he's a good boy.

Look up
McCain wet start Forrestal

Like the other ruling classholes
He's protected by the Brass.


http://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/35321150/navy-releases-mccains-records

Think the truth would be allowed out?
Think that's a blackmail lever?

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/oct/06/nation/na-aviator6

What were we told about the Liberty?
Not McCain related, but exposes the lies.

Articles exist supporting both sides.
Believe the one that fits best, I guess.
That's how I do it
Information exists saying he was taken off the ship before they even had the fire under control.
A lot of men died.
They had friends.

He was not liked in the POW camp.

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McCain and the POW cover-up ... McCain attended that committee hearing specifically to confront Alfond because of her criticism of the panel’s work.
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We had no reason to be in Nam.

If he had never been on the Forestall or in Nam I would still despise him.
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Reply #7 - 08/07/17 at 14:06:22
 
The 1st report "WAYNE MADSEN REPORT"
is so rife with errors and conflicting statements it's ridiculous.
It states McCain is in an A4, but an F4 cooked off a Zuni.
So he's not responsible?  but he was there so it's his fault?
But blames him for mounting 1000# bombs on 500# hard points?

someone's got an axe to grind, the errors will have to be resolved before I take any credence with it.
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