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The Double Standard
07/18/17 at 17:57:55

The Double Standard.

Months ago a Asian, (rather ‘white’, looking), shot a Black person.
It was a Traffic stop. Black person in car, said, ‘I have a gun’, cop said, put your hands up, black person reaches for gun, cop shoots him in self defense. Girlfriend, of person shot, had a phone video, of, ‘After’, the shooting, which went all over the internet, yet she did, ’Not”, have any footage, of, Before the shooting. (Which it was reported, she was holding the camera up, as filming).
Results: 3 RIOTS, by BLM & friends. The Mother and Father, got 3.5 MILLION in a settlement from the City. And Gov ‘Goofy’ gave 12 MILLION, to the police, to ’train’ them, how to treat a, ‘black’, person. The Police officer was acquitted in a trial, then Fired! and the Media has the story and developments, 24/7, for a month. With ALL Sorts of recent photos of the Cop, just going about his everyday life business after the shooting.

A week ago, a, Black Cop shot a White Woman dead.
Very Little said, VERY LITTLE. What was reported:
The Woman, called 911, reported someone snooping around her house, (in Mpls), she saw the cop car come. She goes to them,
(NOTHING in her hands, it’s Summer, no bulky clothing items).

She walks up to the car, the, PASSENGER, Cop, leans over, past his partner driving, and shoots her dead out the window.

NO ONE KNEW anything more. Than days later, reported, the Cop, was a, ’Newly’, Minted Somalian, and the only photos, were High School year book photos. Then in ONE, report, it was said: “He is the first Somalian on the Mpls Force”. (And Never said again).
Ironically, weeks earlier, Mpls was, Bragging, how so many, ‘underprivileged’ people want to be police, and they now have a, ‘program’ for those that can’t afford the 4 year schooling. (Read that as: They, ‘Fast-Tracked’, them)
Result:, Gov, ‘Goofy’ silent, BCA Silent, Media Silent, Police, Silent. (OH, and NO Riots)

This is called, ‘Observed Reality’, where, two situations, are treated TOTALLY Different!!!!!!

Granted, it will take another 2-3 months, to, ‘eke’ out the details. (Like pulling, hens teeth).
Still don’t think they will be treated, anywhere CLOSE, to the same.

What would it matter, if a, Black shot a White, or White shot a Black, or a Asian shot a Hispanic, etc,etc,etc.
A Police person, shot a non Police person.
Tell me why they are treated, NOT the same?

And this, 'Double Standard', also appears on this Forum.
As one poster, on this forum,
is treated differently than others.

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Re: The Double Standard
Reply #1 - 07/19/17 at 08:34:28

MnSpring wrote on 07/18/17 at 17:57:55:

The Double Standard.

Months ago a Asian, (rather ‘white’, looking), shot a Black person.
It was a Traffic stop. Black person in car, said, ‘I have a gun’, cop said, put your hands up, black person reaches for gun, cop shoots him in self defense. Girlfriend, of person shot, had a phone video, of, ‘After’, the shooting, which went all over the internet, yet she did, ’Not”, have any footage, of, Before the shooting. (Which it was reported, she was holding the camera up, as filming).

You need to review the recently released actual footage.
cop did not say 'put your hands up', he said "don't reach for it, don't reach for it... bam, bam, bam" or something to that effect.
The problem is he was most likely reaching for his wallet.
The cop failed to command the situation with his voice instead of his gun.

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Reply #2 - 07/19/17 at 14:30:36

verslagen1, Your right.

Guess I got confused with, another indent, where the, ‘Witnesses’, all said,
“He had His Hands Up”, and it was proven beyond a doubt he didn’t.

“… he said “don’t reach for it, don’t reach for it… ”

I think it is the Situation, not the words.

Let’s say, you got stopped for a tail light out.
Ya pull over, Officer, asks for, the normal stuff where you live.
You say: “I Have A Gun”.
The Officer says: “don’t reach for it, don’t reach for it”,
as he pulls out his gun.

Now would you, ’Stop’, reaching, for what the Defense Aty will say, ‘Was a Wallet’.
Or would you keep, reaching for, ’something’,
Something, the Officer clearly thought could be a GUN,
Because you just said, "I Have A Gun” ?

Last night on the broadcast news, just a rehash, of the ’nothing’, they knew.
Except, they had a ’Simulated’ (cartoon type) reenactment, of all the information they knew.

It was a view, from the back seat of the Squad car, (SUV’s now)
It showed the, PASSENGER, officer, drawing his firearm, with his right hand.
his left hand did NOT, activate the Body Cam, he was wearing,
(Which is a simple tap in the center of it)
And when the Passenger, drew his loaded firearm, he, Crossed himself,
Then Crossed the legs of, his fellow Officer,
then discharged the firearm, in FRONT of the Driver, and KILLED, the Lady.

What is the the number, of the Firearm Safety Commandment,
That Says:
“Never Point a Firearm at anything you DON’T, want to Shoot”

Did the shooter, want to shoot, his legs,
or the knees/thighs, (or perhaps even the body), of his fellow Officer ?

The 12 (+/-), year old Kids, who go through the, (now Mandatory), F.S.T.C.,
Know this, as a absolute!

But it seems, this officer, was not paying attention.

Their will be months of, ’spin’, and then the result will be, buried, one way or the other.

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Re: The Double Standard
Reply #3 - 07/19/17 at 14:51:51

My bet is that shooting was accidental and I'm giving the greenhorn a lot of benefit of doubt.
No one in their right mind would do what the animation said, discharging a weapon in front of their partner, it would blow out their eardrums.
I think he drew his weapon for whatever reason, he had a round in the chamber, didn't have the safety on and pulled the trigger or caught it on something.
They reported him shooting thru the door, does that mean thru the window or the door panel?

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Re: The Double Standard
Reply #4 - 07/19/17 at 15:23:49

I suppose it's somehow less horrific as an accidental shooting. That at least subtracts the racial aspect of it. It still leaves an allegedly professionally trained, sufficiently intelligent to be trained, individual who pointed a weapon past one and at another with his finger on the trigger.
That the cop was there as the result of a program to bring Certain People onto the force isn't going to get near the attention it should.

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Re: The Double Standard
Reply #5 - 07/19/17 at 15:49:45

verslagen1 wrote on 07/19/17 at 14:51:51:

My bet is that shooting was accidental and I'm giving the greenhorn a lot of benefit of doubt.
No one in their right mind would do what the animation said, discharging a weapon in front of their partner, it would blow out their eardrums.
I think he drew his weapon for whatever reason, he had a round in the chamber, didn't have the safety on and pulled the trigger or caught it on something.
They reported him shooting thru the door, does that mean thru the window or the door panel?

I Believe it was the window, not the door panel.
Also I think the glass was down, as the driver turned it down, to talk to the approaching Woman.

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Re: The Double Standard
Reply #6 - 07/19/17 at 16:13:38

Just to add a few more, ‘Don’t Knows’,
‘caus NO ONE is Saying.

Was their a bullet hole in the door panel?
Was their window glass, on the pavement ?

Do know, she was shot in the stomach, (as reported).

But don’t know how tall she was.
How tall the shooter was.
Where he discharged, in relation to the window.
How close was the firearm to his fellow Officer.
How far away was she from the SUV.

That department, generally carries a brand of a semi-auto handgun,
that their is no, ‘lever’, type safety.
The Safety, is a tab on the trigger, which has to be depressed, for the trigger to move backwards.

It is basically the same as the, ‘grip’ safety on a 1911 style, Semi-auto,
where your hand, (the web of, when you hold the firearm),
only it is moved, (on that style) to be part of the trigger.

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Re: The Double Standard
Reply #7 - 07/20/17 at 16:30:55

More info:
Window was down, she was standing next to the car, talking to the driver, when the ,'passenger', shot her Dead.

Here are requirements for being a Police Office in Mpls.

Complete a Certificate Program
This is for people who already have a two or four year degree in another field.
• Complete Law Enforcement certificate courses through a Professional Peace Officer Education program
• Pass the POST Licensing Exam
• Timeline: Approximately nine months or more depending on student

Did you get that, ANY TWO Year Degree,
in ANYTHING !!!!!!!!!
The, ‘… the POST Licensing Exam…” Is that the one, where 2 + 2 = 5
(Depending on who you are ?)
The, “…Timeline: Approximately nine months…”
‘APPROXIMATELY?’

Next, The Shooter was on the force for 2 years, the Driver for 1 year.
Take into account, that Each of them were required to partner with a Experience Officer, for 6 Months, Prior to them being let out on their own. That leaves,
1.5 Year for the shooter, and 1/2 a year for the driver.
And the Driver, has one, ‘Pending Offense’, and the Shooter has, TWO, Pending, offenses.
and a 3rd, that was dismissed. So that is 3, in 1.5 Years ???????
Who were Partners on a Night Shift.
(That’s the shift the Rookies go to first, Usually)
Unless you have years in the force, and have earned the wrath, of a Superior Officer, than you are relegated to the Night Shift.
So, two, ‘Rookies’, Patrolling, with 4, ‘offenses’, and 2 years experience, between them.

Next, The woman, was in her PJ’s, and talking through the open window, to the driver,
when the driver said, he heard the, ‘loud boom’ or, ’noise’, that was reported.
(Was reported as, ‘Arial Fireworks’) Then the Passenger, Shot her.
(Their are Pages and Pages, and Pages, of this event on the web.
And a few of them reported the above same facts)

What is also interesting, is even the well known, ultra-Liberal ’news’ sources, say what a travesty this event is.

In one photo, it showed, the shooter as right handed, (as that was the side he had his firearm holstered on)
Yet, last night, another station, showed another, ‘cartoon like’ simulation, from the back seat.
(guess they saw the other station showing his using his Right hand)
Showing the woman standing Next to the car, talking, and the shooter, using his Left hand.
(Guess that illustrator, was Left Handed)

The M.E. ruled her Death, a, ‘Homicide’.

Yep, totally understand the, ’Thin Blue Line’,
when a perpetrator, is caught red handed, raping,
and he, ’slips’, and falls hitting his head on the car door.

But, the, ’Thin Blue Line’, in this case, (If a ’Snowflake’, defense lawyer has his way).
Will seriously DAMAGE, the credibility,
of 95% + of, Honest, Good, Skillful, Police, throughout, this Nation.
(ONLY, if it goes to Trial, which the ULTRA LIBERAL C.A. has the total say so)

And the Latest:
3-4, Months, before a decision is made.
While the Shooter, sits home, on his porch, drinking Mint Juleps,
(or something else),
and gets PAID, his FULL salary.

NOW, ONE, person, will gather ALL the information from all, the parties.
And that ONE, person, will decide what charges, or Not, to Bring.
That, ONE MAN, is:
Mike Freeman, Hennepin County Attorney
A Ultra Liberal, Dem,
WHO, will do, WHATEVER, Gov. ‘Goofy’, TELLS him to do.
He’s real ’Slick’, and, ‘Smooth’, just like, ‘Willy’,
And he, DOES, what he is, TOLD, to do.

Oh, for those of you, who perhaps seen me post of the current Governor of Minn,
and refer him, as, Gov. ‘Goofy’.
If you have now, seen him on Nat Stories on the Web,
you see why.
(And those were on GOOD days) LOOOLOLOL

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Re: The Double Standard
Reply #8 - 07/21/17 at 16:09:42

New information last night.
The Mpls Police Chief, (Janee Harteau)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HubdMWqh-jE

It, ’Seems’, that the MPD is not, going to support Noor.
By her words:
“This should Not have Happened…”
“ These were the actions of one person…”

Yet, In this video, which questions can not be heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ITcWC4z-qA
She says:
“ I have been ’told’, by the Training Officers…”
(sic; ‘he did well’)
“ His Training was Not Extended…”

Harteau, is also a ultra-Liberal
Who allowed a 18 day Protest, (in front of her office), where hundreds of rocks and bricks were thrown at police officers and the precinct.
Where, 12 squad cars had “significant” damage, and tens of thousands of dollars in damage was done to the precinct. And no Snowplows or Emergency units could get through.
(Didn’t mention the, ‘Garbage’, clean up bill after they left)

In response to 2 white cops, shooting a Black man.
Who the BLM said, Repeatedly, “he was Handcuffed”.
Then when a video, surfaced, (from the back of a ambulance)
Showing a, COMPLETELY, Different happening.
(Just the way the Police said), When Freeman announced,
“ No Charges against the Officers”,
the HEAD of the BLM movement, shouted DEATH Threats.
ON VIDEO, But nothing was done.

But, it ‘looks’ like, the MPD, is getting ready to throw, Noor, under the Bus.

Now why does it matter?
Simple, IF the Cops shot a Handcuffed person, that would be bad, and they should be punished.
But they did NOT, Yet EVERYONE ELSE, get’s, ‘Punished’, by BLM. (The Dec Riots)

Last week, a cop, killed a un armed woman.
If their is NO evidence, that she was a threat, had a firearm, was a front for a ambush, etc. etc. (Which it sure looks like)
That cop, should be punished.

But if he is not,
Look Out,
ALL Those Riots, all that destruction, all that Looting, all that, blocking traffic will happen.

(Oh wait, I will predict, that will Not happen)

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Reply #10 - 07/21/17 at 19:14:29

Holy SMOKE !!!!!!

Don’t go to F.B. much, about once a week or more.
(Dog Website, certain breed, know 98% of the people their,
Mostly dog related discussions)

(This site is entertainment enough,
reading a, trolls, posts)

Anyway, That, F.B. ‘Dog’, site, was FULL,
of the recent cop, killing a civilian, in Minn.

And one thing, I have not seen on the, ’news’, web channels,
or local broadcast.
Almost everyone said the shooter, fired 3 times.

Perhaps, Harteau, has received information from the BCA,
the rest of us don’t know about.
Perhaps that is why it, seems,
like she is going to throw Noor under the bus?

If that happens, another nail in the coffin of, ‘PC Correct’.
And reinforcement of;
Deciding if someone is good or bad,
Biased, on their, ACTIONS,
Not the Color of their skin.

(BCA= Bureau of Criminal Apprehension.
Kinna like a, State, FBI)

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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: The Double Standard Reply #11 - 07/21/17 at 19:47:10 The Chief resigns(after discussions with mayor), falling on the sword in the usual politically correct manner. Don't stick around to correct the mess your people have made. The mayor should resign also, aaaaaaaaaaand the governor of Minn, oh and probably the President also. (Sorry, couldn't resist, kinda a fantasy of mine.)
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Re: The Double Standard
Reply #12 - 07/22/17 at 11:15:58

The odds have changed.
Used to be, (for a short time) in favor, of Noor going to trial.

But now, that the Mayor of Mpls, Betsy Hodges,
has ‘asked’ for her resignation.
NOTE: Hodges told a City Council member,
that she had the votes on the executive committee to fire Harteau,
and planned to do so if Harteau didn’t resign.

Looks like the odds, have now changed, to Noor’s favor.

Even though, Harteau, is very Liberal, when she stands next to Betsy Hodges,
It looks like she is holding tickets to a Trump Rally, and has one of his hats behind her back.

Because, the REAL Reason, she was asked to resign is:
Hodges has had, a, BIG, ‘Burr under the saddle’ with Harteau, ever since Hodges was elected.
AND, She NEVER Kissed, ‘Goofy’s’, or Hodges azz.

The one sided bird cage liner. (star tribune)
IF you READ. Says, what happened.
If you just watch the video, (The 'little' piece of what went on),
you only see, a hand full of, ‘protesters’.
And look Closely, their are Twice as many Cameras in the room, than protesters.
http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-police-chief-janee-harteau-resigns/435...
It shows, to those that don’t know how to read or comprehend
Or, (to those that want the, ‘Instant gratification’)
Of just watching a, very edited, little piece, the, ’Slant/Spin’.
That, ‘oh those people are nuts, and we Have to Have, ‘Diversity’,
so we must, ‘Protect’, Noor, from the ‘kooks’.

OH, can you guess, WHO, was one of the Greatest,
Supporters, of, ‘Diversity’, in hiring people ?

(What happened to, ‘hiring’, QUALIFIED people for a Job ?)

The, Mayor,
will tell the Gov,
who will tell,
the County Attorney,
what to do.

(Maybe Noor doesn’t have to plan a trip to, Belize)
Grin

Coming SOON, to a City Near You !!!!!!!

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Reply #13 - 07/22/17 at 11:37:31

Trippah wrote on 07/21/17 at 19:47:10:

The Chief resigns(after discussions with mayor), falling on the sword in the usual politically correct manner. Don't stick around to correct the mess your people have made. The mayor should resign also, aaaaaaaaaaand the governor of Minn, oh and probably the President also. Shocked

(Sorry, couldn't resist, kinda a fantasy of mine.)

The Chief resigns(after discussions with mayor),

That statement is a, Perfect, example,
of NOT, knowing the FACTS.
Yes, it is, true, but it LACKS,
the, ‘Rest Of The Story’, (P. Harvey)

And while The Mayor, had a ‘discussion’, with the Police Chief.
Which is true,
It is made to, ‘LOOK LIKE’, the Chief, resigned on her own accord.
When the FACTS are:
“Hodges told a City Council member,
that she had the votes on the executive committee to fire Harteau,
and planned to do so if Harteau didn’t resign”

Why the difference?
One gets. ‘fired’, less ‘pension’.
One, ‘resigns’, full Pension.

So the, ‘discussion’, probably, went something like this:
“You, WILL, Resign, if you do not, I will FIRE you”

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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: The Double Standard Reply #14 - 07/22/17 at 15:20:24 Sometimes, you can simply choose "fire me" rather than resigning. As noted above, there is a rest of the story, thanks for filling in the backsplash.
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