Not sure why, but my post was deleted....

But here's the gist:


Just for a moment, take out the violence of Charlottesville this weekend.  For the sake of argument, let's pretend that no one was hurt or killed, OK?

Now, let's look at the message, shall we?  Do the nazis have a right to march?  Absolutely.  Now, answer this question - are they right?  (Don't even try to say "I don't care, it's their right" - that's basically saying they are right.)  Do you agree with their message?

Now hey, if you're a white supremacist, then you'll agree with them - if that's the case, you do you and own up to it. If you're not, then the only answer is no, they are not right and people should rally against them (just like they did this weekend)

Instead of pointing fingers about the violence - which, by the way, hasn't been determined who threw the first punch - look at what these groups stand for.

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Good question TT. It looks as though the whole conversation re Charlottesville has mysteriously disappeared.

Anybody got an explanation.?

WebsterMark wrote on 08/17/17 at 10:23:10:


I stand with all anti fascists.  It's not a tough call.  Be clear, I don't agree with the violence that occurs - I don't think you need to incite any violence.  But I believe in the MESSAGE.
My question to you would be - why WON'T you?


On a separate note - all these "wonderful statues" you talk about...
you should find out when the bulk of them were erected.  It's a fact that  MOST of them went up after reconstruction - into the early 1900's.  You think that's a coincidence???

WebsterMark wrote on 08/17/17 at 10:44:34:


No, I don't participate in violent protests.

I simply stand against fascism.

Why don't you?

I have stated many times already, but it seems folks just like bolstering their made up minds, searching out and looking for affirmation.

This board is not even a blip on a radar screen.

The morons who fell on Charlottesville under the banner of Unite the Right, do not even come close to the folks I know who I call "on the right".

Because they called themselves that, does not give it any validity, no more so than saying Muslim Terrorist is ALL Muslims, or the thrust of the religions teachings.

But of course, you have folks play this up.....
That is the question that needs to be answered.

And it will be in midterms.

The vast majority of folks I talk to at work, an extremely diverse group, fact is, I am blessed I have such a wealth of different races, backgrounds, etc, to get real input from, not the goldmine of deceit from a media, etc, that have proved over and over again to be agenda driven, disingenuous, and just flat out wrong....

They just shrug off all this media driven hype.

Life is lived best in person, not on a message board, or living on a website, etc. thinking that is what real life, and what real people care about.

We'll see in midterms were folks are.
Hopefully, and I have a lot of faith, folks will put adults in DC.
The partisanship is the cancer, the buffoons who went to Charlottesville, the results, as in Berkeley, Oregon, etc.....
Folks that act out with violence are sick, plain and simple, they lack and rationality, and those who try and use them to promote their own beliefs and agenda, are complicit, and sick themselves.    

T And T Garage wrote on 08/17/17 at 11:35:00:


I'm using your logic. You stand with ANTIFA who commit violent acts regularly.

oldNslow wrote on 08/17/17 at 09:54:59:


Web wrote:

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I was tired of d!ckweed TT calling everyone who doesn't buy his BS a racist and told him to call me that to my face which of course he would never do. I'm guessing someone thought that was out of line or little TT needed saving [/quote]

So, just so I understand how this works. Someone says something in a thread that, I presume, one of the Mods feels is a violation of protocol, and EVERYTHING disappears. Even the posts of those of us, and I include myself in that group, who didn't engage in whatever it was that pissed off whomever deleted the conversation. Everyone gets punished, not just the offender? Or is there some secret mechanism that I'm unaware of, by which  someone,other than a moderator, who feels aggrieved can do this?

When the discussion gets heated, and stuff gets out of hand, and it surely does from time to time, I thought that only the offending posts would be censured. Not the entire conversation. Or am I missing something?

I'll accept the blame for that. There's only one leftist on this forum so by default, he's become the focal point.

And unlike said leftist, I loath the idea of censorship so I'll refrain from anything that will rile up his protectors to the point they feel the need to throw a giant security blanket over the whole thread.

Apologies to Mnspring and oldnslow.