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Batman, thanks for the info, I was wondering what the stock rake on bike was. It's one of the specs/dimensions you often can't easily find. You also brought up some good points.
Me personally would never consider a 14º kit as it's too long and like you mentioned probably could creat a little instability in the whole thing.
The recommended new tubes with an AME 9º kit are 4" longer as I understand it. Apparently that maintains the bike level on front to back axis. The AME kits are distributed by ChoperSupply here in the states. I have reached out to them by email for some detailed info on the kits but they were not too forthcoming, particularly in the follow-up to my initial inquiry. I don't think it's they don't have a full understanding of the complete engineering and applications it may be more they just don't want to take the time to explain it all. When I requested some additional detailed follow-up they weren't overly supportive. They may be better on phone if I had called, just didn't want to waste their time until I scrape up the $2300 plus a kit from them costs.
AME claims they basically maintain the trail on the bike. I don't have a complete understanding of the kit and components though, just a surmise of how it all goes together from what sketchy technical I have been able to locate on web.
Basically, the kit not only includes new trees, it also includes new inserts/bushings for the frame tube. Unlike the stock tube inserts/bushings they have some sort of offset built into them that basically simulates a cut and reweld of the frame. That is, unlike the standard set up where the bolt basically passes through the tube in alignment with it, the new inserts change that, creating an offset so that the bolt and tube are no longer in parallel. With that though I may be wrong, like said I surmised it from info I have been able to review.
It does result in a difference in handling, though the claim is only slight with the 9º kit. Don't want to go into the whole math and angles discussion, it been hashed over before in other threads. It basically is a trade off for a little less maneuverability at low speed for a little more stability at high speed and a little less dip when on the front brake hard.
If anyone has experience with the kit and install would love to get some feedback from them. I have communicated with Arteacher who had the 9º kit and he recommended it as an improvement for his type of riding.
It's all about the exchange of ideas and info and I'd appreciate any specifc details folks may have about all this.
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