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First service + question
05/06/17 at 11:48:37

Just finished the first service at 498 miles on my S40. I also fitted a genuine Yamaha raptor fuel petcock. Nothing loose but the speedometer cable under the tank, and the air filter was absolutely as new.

Only thing I did not do was to adjust the valves. Is there a tool available to take off the timing cover? I did not want to damage it using a screwdriver.

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5098 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #1 - 05/06/17 at 11:59:59 Jlc are you sure you put the oil filter in correctly? Otherwise it will lead to a catastrophic engine failure !
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Reply #2 - 05/06/17 at 12:02:37

JLC,

Honda makes a tool specifically for that slotted fastener to get at the nut to turn the engine for timing.

I used a home made tool and ended up breaking the cover. It would be worth the investment to have the Honda Tool The part number for the tool is listed in the Clymer Service Manual.

I didn't adjust my valves until 6600 miles and they were not off adjustment enough to worry about.

Look through the Technical Section before you go any further. Also, look at the section for Errors In Clymer.

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JLC Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 262 Black Forest, Colorado Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #3 - 05/06/17 at 12:03:01 Yep, I did fit the oil filter the correct way
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JLC Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 262 Black Forest, Colorado Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #4 - 05/06/17 at 12:03:53 Thanks for the info. I will buy the Honda tool (Honda part #07700-0010001). Update: I searched the part number above on several Honda parts websites with no results. Anybody knows what Honda bikes this tool was made for?
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Reply #5 - 05/06/17 at 12:46:14

JLC wrote on 05/06/17 at 12:03:53:

Thanks for the info. I will buy the Honda tool (Honda part #07700-0010001).

Update: I searched the part number above on several Honda parts websites with no results. Anybody knows what Honda bikes this tool was made for?

With a low part # like that, I would say it's possibly a complete tool kit like one that came with the bike.

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JLC Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 262 Black Forest, Colorado Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #6 - 05/06/17 at 12:54:34 Darn! Makes it more difficult to find just the one tool, does not it?
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Reply #7 - 05/06/17 at 12:55:13

Read this: Lot of suggestions for a tool for that cover.

http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1232437043

I'd ignore the post about using an impact tool though. That shouldn't be necessary.

Just about anything that will fit tightly in the slot, and that you can get a good grip on to turn it will work.

When you put the cover back on don't reef on it. It only needs to be tight enough to not fall out. It isn't holding anything together, and the o-ring will keep it in if it's just snugged up. Resist the urge to give it that little extra twist after it stops turning in.

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JLC Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 262 Black Forest, Colorado Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #8 - 05/06/17 at 13:54:18 Thanks for the link. Lots of people thinking "out of the box"! Very useful. I found a fender washer that is now in my S40-specific tool box as the "timing cover tool".
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LANCER Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Savage Beast Performance Parts Posts: 10661 Oklahoma Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #9 - 05/06/17 at 19:51:39 Sudco has the Honda tool being discussed. If you want their part number for it I can get it for you in the morning.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5098 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #10 - 05/06/17 at 22:20:12 I used a washer that fit the groove snugly and a vise grip on the washer. Worked fine and no marring the plug.
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JLC Senior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 262 Black Forest, Colorado Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #11 - 05/07/17 at 02:45:34 I have a suitable washer, but I would like to get the Honda tool anyway - so, Lancer, please post the tool number. Thanks.
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Reply #12 - 05/07/17 at 12:05:38

The tips of the adjuster screws on a new bike are hardened when hitting the top of the valves ,but this happens over time ,I'd wait until you have about 5000 mi. on the bike before adjustment,this way they should be as hard as they're going to ever get an when you set them ,you may find if you check them every 5000 mi after that they need no adjustment at all,for a very long time.

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norm92de Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1180 El Paso TX Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #13 - 05/07/17 at 13:30:55 The NRA sent me some kind of commemorative medal which fits the slot nicely. When I tighten the cover screw I only do it finger tight. It has never worked loose. In other words no "hot left boot."
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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: First service + question Reply #14 - 05/07/17 at 20:45:17 I new the NRA was good for something!
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