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Reply #30 - 03/14/17 at 15:14:55
 
pg wrote on 03/14/17 at 14:00:22:
oldNslow wrote on 03/14/17 at 13:32:19:
Take a good look around. Political action of any kind isn't going to fix this. The system is broken beyond repair. Spend your time and energy preparing for the inevitable Sh*t storm thats coming down the pike.


What kind of time frame?

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I don't know. But when the tipping point is reached whatever is going to happen will happen fast.

Think:
The beginning of WW1
The American Civil War
The collapse of the Soviet Union
Bosnia.
Rwanda

You can no doubt think of others, but that's what I'm talking about.

Those events blindsided the majority of the folks in the populations involved.
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Reply #31 - 03/14/17 at 15:17:44
 
I won't be donning a foil hat waiting for the end....

Anything less than getting involved is giving up.  If you think there is no hope - that's on you.

Shame on anyone with that attitude.

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Reply #32 - 03/14/17 at 15:37:09
 
I Am involved. You can't win a game until you understand the way it's played. I'm Working at getting people to develop the curiosity to delve into the information that explains Why things are as they are. Until people know what is going on and have a clear understanding of what America is Supposed to be, they can't fix it. Your heart is in the right place, but you're set up to play a decent game of checkers while America is being run in a hole by master chess players.
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Reply #33 - 03/14/17 at 15:38:00
 
T And T Garage wrote on 03/14/17 at 15:17:44:
I won't be donning a foil hat waiting for the end....

Anything less than getting involved is giving up.  If you think there is no hope - that's on you.

Shame on anyone with that attitude.



The only hat I wear is a ballcap. Or a motorcycle helmet. I've been "involved" for longer than you've been alive I suspect. I don't believe in "hope". I believe in planning for what's coming, whether you, or anyone else, believes it can and will happen. I posted a few examples from the past. You think those things won't happen again ? Won't, or can't happen here ? Why? Because we are special and somehow immune to historical inevitability? A different breed from the rest of humanity ?  The real shame is not being willing to see what is right in front of you.

Good luck with your Amendment.


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Reply #34 - 03/14/17 at 15:51:01
 
The real shame is not being willing to see what is right in front of you.

Especially while people are pointing it out.
You can put that tin foil where you make funny noises when you walk.

Our parents and grandparents watched this country get out from under them. They were wanting good things for us. They read papers and did what they could to ensure the future by voting intelligently, yet, no matter who was elected, the policies continued to suck at the marrow of what made America prosperous.
Go Look for the information about the wealth and prosperity of Americans just prior to the Federal Reserve. The banks created easy money and scarce money, to create the problems that would create support for a Central Bank.
Tim foil, screw that. I'm well read and I know more about the things that are hurting our society than you.
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Reply #35 - 03/14/17 at 16:35:46
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/14/17 at 15:51:01:
The real shame is not being willing to see what is right in front of you.

Especially while people are pointing it out.
You can put that tin foil where you make funny noises when you walk.

Our parents and grandparents watched this country get out from under them. They were wanting good things for us. They read papers and did what they could to ensure the future by voting intelligently, yet, no matter who was elected, the policies continued to suck at the marrow of what made America prosperous.
Go Look for the information about the wealth and prosperity of Americans just prior to the Federal Reserve. The banks created easy money and scarce money, to create the problems that would create support for a Central Bank.
Tim foil, screw that. I'm well read and I know more about the things that are hurting our society than you.


LMAO - seriously???  Wow.... anyone who says that has an inferiority complex!!

How utterly sad...

You sure can dish it out, but you obviously can't take it
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Reply #36 - 03/14/17 at 16:54:44
 
What's Your GOAL? You wanna think you're right or do you want to Be informed?
Keep laughing. When you get bit in the face and it's obvious that you were told, well, it's too late then. Defend that ignorance and stand tall.
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Reply #37 - 03/15/17 at 05:09:23
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/14/17 at 14:20:55:
And did it affect your understanding of how things really work?


Sure, I now describe it as the 2nd biggest fraud in human history.

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Reply #38 - 03/15/17 at 05:12:54
 
oldNslow wrote on 03/14/17 at 15:14:55:
I don't know. But when the tipping point is reached whatever is going to happen will happen fast.


I don't think anyone can make an educated guess.  What I can say it has been a long time since the world has seen a true conflict.  I suspect the dollar and it's reserve currency status will play a role.

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Reply #39 - 03/15/17 at 05:17:43
 
Your (our) "best before" date has expired......

Democracies last ~ 200 yrs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_Tytler,_Lord_Woodhouselee

Or maybe we think we are different (special, unique, smarter than the average bear).

As always - time will tell

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Reply #40 - 03/15/17 at 05:51:53
 
Republic..
Not democracy.
I'm not sure when that died, but the actions by Lincoln certainly were not constitutional. The income tax, federal reserve, emergency war powers,
Any idea how long ago a sane loan officer would have declared America bankrupt?
Ohh, wait, happened already.. still under reconstruction, not That reconstruction..
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Reply #41 - 03/15/17 at 06:36:02
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/14/17 at 16:54:44:
What's Your GOAL? You wanna think you're right or do you want to Be informed?
Keep laughing. When you get bit in the face and it's obvious that you were told, well, it's too late then. Defend that ignorance and stand tall.


I've seen the likes of the paranoid for decades.  "Get informed!", "Know your government!", "They're coming for our guns!", "Read this!", etc.  What they all have in common is that they talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.

My goal is to stay involved.  That means local, state and federal.  I know my alderman personally (he's a republican), I've met several assemblymen(women), I met my state rep more than once, I volunteer at my polling place, I've made calls for people I support in office, I've gone out gathering signatures - staying involved.

Not once have I said to someone - "I know more than you..."  I DON'T know more than you - THAT'S why I do what I do, to learn, to grow, to understand.  I point out ignorance, I try to shine light on what needs to be seen.  I don't defend the actions of the stupid (either dem or repub).

Lastly, I know that this little forum reaches about 8 people.  I came here for my Savage (which has been awesome) and this is a little entertaining offshoot.  I take it about as serious as I should.

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Reply #42 - 03/15/17 at 09:26:07
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/15/17 at 05:51:53:
Any idea how long ago a sane loan officer would have declared America bankrupt?


What !! ... and quit paying all that interest !
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Reply #43 - 03/15/17 at 11:58:37
 
And what will happen when interest rates rise?

Our Servicing the Debt costs will outstrip the economic growth that they pointed to in order to justify the increase. AAAND Trump gets the blame.
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Reply #44 - 03/15/17 at 18:57:10
 
T And T Garage wrote on 03/15/17 at 06:36:02:
" ... I've seen the likes of the paranoid for decades.  "Get informed!", "Know your government!", "They're coming for our guns!", "Read this!", etc.  What they all have in common is that they talk the talk, but they don't walk the walk.


WOW,  just   WOW.


On, ‘Guns’.
So, no one  is trying to take them ?
So no one is, LYING, to the,  ’snowflakes’, and  'Fairy Dust  Sprinklers’ ?
So  no one has  done  EVERYTHING in their power  to  ‘eliminate’ them ?
     Glad cooler, and informed people say different.
     But keep trying
     The,  FREEDOM  Loving people, expect you to.


(well, another example, of,  ‘OBSERVED   REALITY’,
is  Not,  ‘really’   “REAL”  !!!!!!)


WOW !!!!
“…  What they all have in common is that they talk the talk, but they don’t walk the walk….”

Well, golly, golly, GEE,  How do you have the insight, to know  exactly what I am doing?




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