justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/07/17 at 19:39:32:
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LOL - you don't see the hypocrisy of your statement, do you?  If you don't believe in the numbers, then you CAN'T believe ANY of the numbers...

It's like believing in satan and not in God...

Sorry - if you support trump's win, then you MUST support the fact that he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million.  You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I wouldn't think this would be too hard for some to understand but apparently it is. The Electoral College protects the minority population from betting steam rolled.

You can download the election results into excel and sort them in various ways. I did. If you look at the top five states, CA, NY, FL, TX and IL, the Democrats popular vote advantage was 6 million.  

Do this same exercise on the Republican side, and you'll need to add up 13 states the R's got a greater share of the popular vote. Ohio and Texas are the largest of these 13.

So it's fair to say the electoral college over represents by geographical location as much as anything. Simply looking at a county by county map shows you vast seas of red with pockets of blue, mostly around the coast.

Face it liberals, a high enough percentage of white and Hispanic, blue collar workers who voted for Obama twice before had seen enough and switch sides. That turned the tide and Trump won.

Before you start crying, think if the election had turned your way because Hispanic voters turned out 99% for Hilary. You would be shouting from the rooftops that a minority group had their say and the election turned in their favor. This is in fact what happened, but the minority group were mostly blue collar workers.

Try seeing things from their point of view. Try using what you famously think you alone possess: an open mind.

Seriously, this is NOT a liberal vs. conservative thing anymore.  Trump is damaging the presidency.  His being elected was a knee jerk reaction to hillary and the establishment.  Had she not run the DNC to stomp Bernie, things would have been very different.

I'm not denying that trump won - he won fair and square.  However, he's got no mandate.  He won the electoral college by less than 70 thousand.  More than that, every day that goes by shows his ineptitude.  Now we're not supposed to take his tweets literally?  Really?  Plus, he's still tweeting about Arnold on the apprentice - again, really??

It's not so much that trump won - it's that America lost.

It IS a liberal vs conservative thing because I don't see how he's damaging anything other than the power brokers that make up the status quo.

I don't see ineptitude at all. I see him doing exactly what I wanted him to do.

As I said many times before the election, Trump would not be my first choice to carry the flag that we needed to be carried, into battle. But, he was the only one who was going to defeat Hilary and he did. That's why I supported him.

I worked for two men in the past that make a great example. One was like Trump, the other one acted like you would describe as "presidential".

Both eventually came to be a dominate force in their respective markets.
One was hated by his competitors, one was judged as being a fair businessman by his competitors.

But in the end, and this is important, they both did the same things needed to succeed. It's jut one acted outwardly in a manner that others said was dis-respectful while the other was the opposite. But they were both practical and ruthless when they needed to be.

Here's another example: Ben Carson took a lot of crap for saying something about slavery and immigration. Turns out Obama said the same thing and faced no objections. Partisanship clouds judgment, myself included.

I don't like Trump tweeting sometimes and I don't take what he says seriously all the time. Interestingly, when I worked for the 'rude' owner, I didn't take his rants seriously either. I knew his that was his personality. It did not go over well with the shareholders but they knew he could deliver profits.

The 'more respectful' owner, didn't rant publically, but he did privately and put together the same plan to attack the target of his private rant the same was as the rude owner's public attack did.

The other things about Trump's tweets, as far as I know, he's not be completely wrong on anything yet. The Dems have already started backing off objecting about Trump Tower being bugged. That should tell you something.

WebsterMark wrote on 03/08/17 at 06:52:55:

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