T And T Garage wrote on 03/07/17 at 09:31:00:
"...Your rant is unwarranted..."
Well it is a balmy 30 today, but it’s to windy to haul rocks.
So the tree cutting postponed.
Inside for a while, to respond to T&T.
(Which he considers ‘Rants’ )Little history, for someone who refuses to do it himself.
This is the, ‘Cliff Notes”, version.
(All the bold below, are, direct quotes from numerous sites, Ill Law, Ill Register, Ill State Police. Wikipedia, etc)In 1949, the State Issued a Handgun Carry BAN, modified in 1962.
In 2013, the state passed, their, ‘carry’ law. To be in acted 1/1/14,
(Which first permit went out on Feb 28, 2014.) Illinois became the last state in the country to allow carrying firearms in public.
(‘Shall’, means that, if you qualify, as to listed things, you, ‘Well’, receive)
(“May’, means that, if you qualify, as to listed things, you, ‘May’ Not, Receive them,
because to receive, or not to receive, is dependent, not on those stated things,
but to a single person, or a, ‘board’)
Still no confirmation, if the new CCW law, is a, ’Shall’, or a, ‘May’, law.
(Paul Harvey Again)On September 12, 2013, the Illinois Supreme Court, ruled that the state’s … law, which completely prohibited concealed carry, was
unconstitutional.
AND.
December 11, 2012,… the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, … ruled that Illinois’
concealed carry ban was unconstitutional, and gave the state 180 days to change its laws. Subsequently, the court granted a 30-day extension of the deadline.
(Complete Quotes below)
So the State was finally, Forced to Follow, the Constitution of this Nation.That new Ill CCW law, Is, ‘kinna’, written as a, ’shall’ law, not a, ‘May’, law.
But is is NOT, Black and White !
And here is a great, “Catch 22”. To get a Ill, CCW, you must FIRST, have a FOID card.
And to get a, FOID Card ????
Yep, that Right, It is a, ‘May’ law LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
The last, ‘requirement’, to get a FOID card, says:
"If the Department issues a denial or fails to act on an application within 90 days of receipt, the applicant may appeal to the director of the Department for a hearing. All final decisions of the Department are subject to judicial review".So does IL, or,
“Chi-raq”, (love that word), Really have a CCW available to the
honest Citizens of that state?????
Or is it joust like NY City or San Francisco or L.A..
where, it is on the ‘books’, but, Maybe, just Maybe, after several years, and 1,000’s of dollars, and all sorts of court dates, and
PAYING OFF OFFICIALS. One, just might get one ???
So, again, that little thing called, ‘Observed Reality’, (which is not really ‘real’, as to T&T)
High Crime Rate areas, where it is Very hard to get a firearm, and have the ’strictest’ gun control laws.
Simply have the Highest Crime rates !
So the, Honest person, can not, carry a firearm, to protect themselves.
Because the Criminals, just grab, ILLEGAL ones.
(Again, how is that, ‘War on Drugs’, going in Ill ???)- - - - - - -
“…but does allow home rule units to enact more restrictive ordinances …”
“Illinois went from a complete ban on public carrying of firearms to a concealed carry law that's now being implemented"
"On July 9, 2013, (sig. that, shall law, was effective Jan 2014), after much litigation and political wrangling, Illinois became the last state in the country to allow carrying firearms in public.”
“Prior to … … failed to pass, a concealed carry law - resulting in Illinois being the only state that completely banned the practice”
“Last winter, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit struck down the Illinois law prohibiting concealed carry as unconstitutional under the Second Amendment. The court gave the legislature 180 days to craft a bill permitting individuals to carry firearms outside the home for self-defense.
On December 11, 2012, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals, in the case of Moore v. Madigan, ruled that Illinois' concealed carry ban was unconstitutional, and gave the state 180 days to change its laws.[33] Subsequently, the court granted a 30-day extension of the deadline.”
"On September 12, 2013, the Illinois Supreme Court, in the case of People v. Aguilar, also ruled that the state's Aggravated Unlawful Use of a Weapon law, which completely prohibited concealed carry, was unconstitutional. On January 5, 2014, the state police began accepting applications for licenses to carry concealed handguns. On February 28, 2014, the state police announced that they had begun issuing concealed carry licenses.”
"The state's original handgun carry ban was enacted in 1949, with the ban's most recent revision being enacted in 1962.[32] The pre-existing law forbade concealed carry”
"However, any law enforcement agency can object to an individual being granted a license "based upon a reasonable suspicion that the applicant is a danger to himself or herself or others, or a threat to public safety". Objections are considered by a Concealed Carry Licensing Review Board, which decides whether or not the license will be issued, based on “a preponderance of the evidence”.
"All final administrative decisions regarding FOID cards by the Department of State Police are subject to judicial review under the Administration Review Law”
“The application process is supposed to take 30 business days or fewer but is often longer, state police acknowledge"
"Orders of protection are from time to time inappropriately filed in family law matters, often times without fully understanding the consequences of such a filing”
“BUT, we how have the FOID, card, which you MUST Have, BELORE, you apply for a CCL"
"If the Department issues a denial or fails to act on an application within 90 days of receipt, the applicant may appeal to the director of the Department for a hearing. All final decisions of the Department are subject to judicial review”.
"Immediately after the bill became law, individuals and entities began to falsely advertise that their courses meet the CCL training requirements”
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