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Reply #15 - 03/22/17 at 14:58:24
 
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Reply #16 - 03/22/17 at 17:17:28
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/22/17 at 13:46:22:
Anyone wanna bet religious affiliation of the attacker in London today?

Jewish? Christian Fundamentalist? Atheist? Muslim?


Gee they haven't disclosed his identity or motive, anyone care to guess?

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Reply #17 - 03/22/17 at 17:45:42
 
Angry white guy , bitter clinger. Christian.
In need of at Least a stool softener.
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Reply #18 - 03/22/17 at 18:17:56
 
Buddist most likely. All day the British press was describing him as an "Asian"
Sure looks like a Chinaman to me  Roll Eyes

Scroll down to the 5th photo

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3151786/london-terror-attack-parliament-car-ped...
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Reply #19 - 03/23/17 at 01:54:38
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 03/22/17 at 17:45:42:
Angry white guy , bitter clinger. Christian.
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European converted to Islam. Imam at his local mosque in Clapham.

Get your facts traight before mocking others, you might be mocked back.

As for the opening post, anyone on this Forum who can trace his ancestry to Hiawatha or Chief Powhatan ?
No?
All you guys have English or Germanic or Slavic or Mediterranean blood ?
Any of you gentlemen NOT celebrate Thanksgiving ?

Roll Eyes

Then you're all immigrants.

YET you all like to see the Chicago / NYC Police Pipes&Drum Band dressed in lookalike scottish garb,
celebrate Columbus Day and the Cherry Blossom festival and have Irish or Scandinavian lore in your culture,
from Rumpelstiltzkin (see, I can spell it!) to Paul Bunyan and his blue ox Babe.

Think about it...
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Reply #20 - 03/23/17 at 03:26:50
 
mpescatori wrote on 03/23/17 at 01:54:38:
Think about it...


Did you read any of the posts before you started to lecture to us?

The premise was the liberal left of America would like to have unlimited unvetted immigration legal or illegal.  Many people are opposed to this.
The recurring incidents which are happening in Europe perpetrated by Muslims just reinforce that belief.

And since you you brought up Native Americans, do you believe they are indigenous to North America?  Their were two big migrations from Asia 5k & 10K years ago.  Regardless, look at what unvetted migration did to their society.

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Reply #21 - 03/23/17 at 05:19:28
 
I saw a photo of that guy lying on the street bleeding to death and that dude ain't no Englishman....his teeth were too good!  (okay, that there was funny, I don't care who you are....)

and Captain Obvious, of course everyone's an immigrant from somewhere if you go far enough up the line. That's not really the point is it?

This guy is attacking infidel governments... not people. Innocent people are the vehicle to carry his message of "" I hate you and I'm going to destroy your way of life". That's the definition of terrorism; attacking in a manner that creates terror in a nation. This is not a crime per se. Crimes are for individual selfish gain. This is a terror attack and in today's world with one side lining up against the other, this is an act of war.

Seriously, WTF Mpesc.... what the hell is it with you and liberals on here LOOKING for ways to downplay terror attacks as statistical oddities.... that I'm more likely to be struck by lighting or something. Like this attack in London wasn't any different that a street robbery.

Honestly, I don't get it. You seem smarter than that. You're from Italy if I recall. Europe is under attack. You are slowly being invaded. Italy won't be Italy much longer. My colleagues in Sweden are at least slowly waking up to the fact they invited in the very people who are changing their culture for the worst. Are you operating under the notion that all cultures are equal? If so, better shake that $hit off right away cause their not.


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Reply #22 - 03/23/17 at 06:19:54
 
MnSpring wrote on 02/17/17 at 19:13:58:
Immigrants

  To All you, who come to this  Nation,  Legally,   (The USA).
Who want to be   Citizens of  this  USA.
Who want to be part of this  great  Nation.
You are,  WELCOME   !!!!!!
I will help you how ever I can.

You want to gather in groups of you own kind, because it make you feel more comfortable during this time of transition.
Fine.
You want to speak, wear clothes, act, continue your comfortable customs, celebrate your holidays, etc., in your own house.
Fine.

You  come to the USA,
ILLEGALLY.
And are looking for a  Hand  Out,
and your goal, is  to make the rest of us, Just Like You?
 Then get the Hell OUT,  Don’t come Back !!!!!!!

Understand  the,  ’Snowflakes’,  they say:   Immigrants,
and  do   NOT,   (repeat DO  NOT)
Make  ANY, Deference between,   Legal,   and  IL-Legal  !!!!!!!!
And they do this,   ON   PURPOSE   !!!!!

Understand   the Difference   !!!!!


This was the opening post. May I highlight ONE sentence.

You want to gather in groups of you own kind, because it make you feel more comfortable during this time of transition.
Fine.
You want to speak, wear clothes, act, continue your comfortable customs, celebrate your holidays, etc., in your own house.
Fine.


This is exactly why I pointed out NYPD parading in lookalike scottish garb, or celebrating Columbus Day and the Cherry Blossom Festival (which is a chinese holiday celebrated in Washington, D.C.)

That is why I find it contradictory to wish your Jewish colleague at work "Happy Hannukah" and then withdraw when someone else want to celebrate their other holidays.
Which, incidentally, might include a hefty dozen Catholic holidays which Protestants guffaw at...

Incidentally, I AM NOT A LIBERAL. Far from that.  I have ARMY policing the streets. It's that bad.



However, when I see a contradiction, I feel it is my right, if not my duty, to point it out.

As for PG's and Webastermark's comments on migrations, I will simply shrug and walk away.
The perpetrator of the London attack was an Englishman converted to Islam.
I had already said that, but maybe somebody dodn't read my post, saw my name and typed away regardless.
There is little point in getting involved in a braying contest with an ass.
Did I say ass? Sorry, I meant donkey. You wouldn't want the cuss-o-meter to get all hyped up...

Have a good day  Cool
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Reply #24 - 03/23/17 at 07:53:54
 
What was that Englishmans last name?
We've seen a son of immigrants, born here, commit terrorism.

The conflation of the ideas that
We are a nation of immigrants
And, we Are a Great Nation
Therefore, to Not see how allowing
Further immigration will only
Further our Greatness is just
Proof that you're a dumb redneck ,
Afraid of people who are not exactly like you
Is a ridiculous argument.

Our lifeboat is sinking. We are Bankrupt, yet, we spend money on war that doesn't benefit America, and hand out billions in foreign aid, while our roads and bridges deteriorate.
Our constitution is face down in a drawer, because of the Emergency War Powers act and our monetary system is a parasite on our lives. And SOMEBODY wants it like that.
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Reply #25 - 03/23/17 at 08:28:43
 
It's okay to call me an a$$ Mpes, I'm not gonna cry about it.
And the fact that you won't get censored and I would have proves you are considered on the left side of the spectrum.

Sorry, but that guy wasn't an Englishman. Doesn't matter if he was a citizen. By attacking your capital with the motives he did, his citizenship should be be considered automatically revoked.

And regarding the rest of your post,  there's a difference between assimilating to the United States while maintaining pride in your heritage versus immigrating into a country with the desire to bring your heritage and take over. That's invasion. that's what's happening in Britain that's what's happening in France in Sweden and probably in Italy. That's what needs to stop. I don't  understand how or why you and others, can't or won't, get that.
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Reply #26 - 03/23/17 at 09:49:12
 
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What was that Englishmans last name?


Khalid Masood

Converted to Islam and turned into a Jihadi by the Archbishop of Canterbury no doubt.

None of the radical immigrant imams that Great Britain is currently infested with had anything to do with that, I'm quite sure.
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Reply #27 - 03/23/17 at 09:58:37
 
It could be an American, a German, a Somali, a Ukrainian, Swedish or Palestinian........they can be home grown or immigrants.......with few exceptions they all have one thing in common and it has been that way for 40 years......Islam.......sorry about the little bit of truth there guys but it's coming to your town also.
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Reply #29 - 03/23/17 at 12:14:49
 
WebsterMark wrote on 03/23/17 at 08:28:43:
It's okay to call me an a$$ Mpes, I'm not gonna cry about it.
And the fact that you won't get censored and I would have proves you are considered on the left side of the spectrum.

Sorry, but that guy wasn't an Englishman. Doesn't matter if he was a citizen. By attacking your capital with the motives he did, his citizenship should be be considered automatically revoked.

And regarding the rest of your post,  there's a difference between assimilating to the United States while maintaining pride in your heritage versus immigrating into a country with the desire to bring your heritage and take over. That's invasion. that's what's happening in Britain that's what's happening in France in Sweden and probably in Italy. That's what needs to stop. I don't  understand how or why you and others, can't or won't, get that.


I understand darn well, that's why I am so upset about it.

Some if you guys call me a liberal, me, I consider myself a nationalist, (moderately)far-right sympathizer. Not a National-Socialist, but quite certainly a "1960's-style Republican by your standards.

It is also true that I defend civil rights as are supported here in Europe, so that, for example:

1. I reveive my SS number on my date of Birth (in hospital, in fact) and I am entitled to State-run health care (which is not free, it's paid through my taxes, but I don't have to rely on a provate contractor to have it)(and it covers 100% all tourists, too, so YOU get free health care over here, I get zero over there)

2. I am automatically enrolled in the Voters' registry at the age of 18,

3. wherever I may move house to, the moment I register myself at the local Municipality I am enrolled in that Voters' Registry and automatically deleted from my place of origin,

...and so on.

What I was pointing at is that I see no harm in someone wanting to celebrate their holidays - provided it does not harm or limit MY OWN everyday life in any way.

Just as, in nature, biodiversity brings strength is applied with harmony, cultural diversity will bring strength to a society if the diversity is applied with harmony.

Have a nice day, it's 8:15 p.m. over here.
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