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Reply #15 - 10/08/16 at 03:55:31
 
Lost, Is a hurricane a weather event or a climate event?
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Reply #16 - 10/08/16 at 17:23:43
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/08/16 at 01:43:59:
Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

exactly
not off the top of my head but a lot

if you know this how can you say and I quote:
"GW is a scam" ??
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Reply #17 - 10/09/16 at 06:36:12
 
How many times do you have to be shown?

Here's the
Logic.


Earth, centuries ago, had glaciers. Many, and farther South than the Arctic circle. The Great Lakes ,,,



The Laurentian Great Lakes were formed nearly 20,000 years ago when the earth's climate warmed and the last glacial continental ice sheet retreated. The glacier, up to 2 miles thick, was so heavy and powerful it gouged out the earth's surface to create the lake basins.
About Our Great Lakes -Background- NOAA Great Lakes ...
https://www.glerl.noaa.gov › ourlakes



What CAUSED  the Earth to warm THEN?

The Medieval Warm Period, archeological findings show that grapes were being raised farther North in Europe than is possible right now. The Logical conclusion is
It was Generally Warmer THEN.


The same people who were screaming twenty years ago that in fifteen years our world will be dramatically changed.
They told us that we would see more frequent and meaner hurricanes.
Meanwhile, Observed Reality disagrees.

And for the Great finale, setting aside how as we've seen changes in Our polar ice, and that other planets spinning around the same
NOT PERFECT STAR,
The Sun, while Apparently stable in its glow, actually changes.
Unless someone can explain Why the glaciers existed, then retreated, and the medieval warm period, and why telescopes Show smaller ice caps on other planets...


And unless someone can explain why, in the age of technology and solar power, we stopped using weather stations in remote locations. Yes, Virginia, we are told that a weather station on a rooftop, within feet of the AC exhaust, will show us accurate information that we can use
And once again, once the dumbmasses believe there Is a

Problem,
They will have a
Reaction
To which the
Solutions
Already exist.

Yes, Virginia, the same dependable people who tell you how many are unemployed, and why we need to be rid of Gadaffi, and all those other lies, are using Your money to lie to you, because they want more control and the carbon tax dollars.

That's how I can say GW is a scam.
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Reply #18 - 10/09/16 at 06:54:22
 
I have to agree with Jog. A very short 15,000 years ago, you couldn't stand on what now is the shores of Chicago's Lake Michigan because in wasn't there yet, it was a glacier.

No one argues against the science of the greenhouse effect, that's proven. What we do dispute is the theory we've put enough of one greenhouse gas into the atmosphere to warm the planet far beyond it's normal warming. And it is naturally warming or there'd still be glaciers over Chicago.

I think it's likely we've influenced the warming to a very small degree, but I think it's not even measurable and I'm not willing to lower my standard of living or condemn poor nations to poverty. There's about a million things more important than this overhyped climate change.
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Reply #19 - 10/09/16 at 07:38:53
 
yes
earth has a natural cycle
how can that be a scam?

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Reply #20 - 10/09/16 at 07:50:48
 
Who said a Natural Cycle is a scam?
I said GW, being sold as a man made problem, with the Solutions FOR that problem being limiting Your carbon footprint , by scaling back the size of YOUR house and paying carbon taxes,,  etc...


So, again, you show me who you really are. You're PRETENDING I said something, and Natural Cycle wasn't mentioned until you tried to pretend that the commonly accepted, though scientifically incomplete,term to describe anthropomorphic global warming,  GW is interchangeable with a Natural Cycle.
No WONDER you can believe that someone who could defeat a candidate in a heads up race wouldn't be helpful to another candidate by endorsing and campaigning For them.

Does This look staged?
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Reply #21 - 10/09/16 at 09:01:32
 
gw is real
even when I agree with you, you argue
you off your meds again?

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Reply #22 - 10/09/16 at 09:26:02
 
The Earth does have it's natural cycles,... but this time it's sped up by near 1,000 fold... and the only causative outlier is us...

...but, whether you believe that or not,... we better start preparing for the consequences...
We're looking at a mass migration of 100's of millions of displaced people,... and farmable land...
The breadbasket/grain belt may move to Canada...
How long do we try to hold back the tide in our major coastal cities?...

There are three camps here...
GW deniers...
Man-made GW deniers...
..and, science...
...but we're all going to see, and pay, for the results of our inaction...
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Ludicrous Speed !... ... Huh...
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Reply #23 - 10/09/16 at 10:23:07
 
Fat Al,  possibly the world's biggest hypocrite.
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Reply #24 - 10/09/16 at 10:23:43
 
where did you get the 1000 fold figure from? is that literal or just someone's figure of speech?

100's of millions? Breadbasket in Canada?

15 years ago, i was told the sea would be uninhabitable...

and this Matthew is a perfect example, hyped as the storm of the century, but reality turned out to be something less than that.
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Reply #25 - 10/09/16 at 11:22:00
 
If....

IF.....

IF........


And "if" God is real........

You think GW is hot  Grin

but we're all going to see, and pay, for the results of our inaction...

Sounds like a religion to me  Grin  Embarrassed  Kiss
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Reply #26 - 10/09/16 at 14:27:33
 
thumperclone wrote on 10/08/16 at 17:23:43:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/08/16 at 01:43:59:
Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

exactly
not off the top of my head but a lot

if you know this how can you say and I quote:
"GW is a scam" ??


Talk about moving the goal posts..

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Reply #27 - 10/09/16 at 15:04:49
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/09/16 at 14:27:33:
thumperclone wrote on 10/08/16 at 17:23:43:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/08/16 at 01:43:59:
Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

exactly
not off the top of my head but a lot

if you know this how can you say and I quote:
"GW is a scam" ??


Talk about moving the goal posts..


moronic buffon
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Reply #28 - 10/09/16 at 16:34:39
 
thumperclone wrote on 10/09/16 at 15:04:49:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/09/16 at 14:27:33:
thumperclone wrote on 10/08/16 at 17:23:43:
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/08/16 at 01:43:59:
Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

exactly
not off the top of my head but a lot

if you know this how can you say and I quote:
"GW is a scam" ??


Talk about moving the goal posts..


moronic buffon


moronic buffon

moronic buffon


moronic buffon


I'm crushed, my ribcage is collapsing from the laughter..
Do you read the semi-pro moronic bufoOnery you type?
One would think that after being handed your ass so many times that you'd at least TRY to not be a buffon..
Buffon... is that short for something?
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