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Message started by WebsterMark on 10/07/16 at 10:43:28

Title: Matthew
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/16 at 10:43:28

I was expecting to wake up to 50,000 dead Floridians floating around the state today but nothing.....

I saw a press conference yesterday where some official was asking his police commissioner if he had a large supply of body bags!

Think this was overblown a little?!

Now, on one hand, you could say better safe than sorry, but on the other hand, have they set up yet another Chicken Little situation? There hasn't been a hurricane hit Florida for 11 years I just heard. If another "storm" pops up a month from now, how many won't leave this time? And if it turns out to be a bad storm. then what?......

I think the global warming crowd was desperate for a disaster, something they could hang around Trump's neck like they hung the false Katrina millstone around Bush's neck.

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by Paraquat on 10/07/16 at 11:14:28

http://a57.foxnews.com/media2.foxnews.com/BrightCove/694940094001/2016/10/06/876/493/694940094001_5159898579001_hurricane-map-100616.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

My mother lives near Melbourne on the barrier island. When it was upgraded to category four, they made evacuation mandatory. Category four is sustained 100 mph winds.

She's inland now in Kissimmee. From what she said last night, the state is taking this very seriously. I'll report back, if you'd like?


--Steve

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/16 at 11:53:21

I'm sure the state is taking his seriously, but asking about body bags sounds ile Saddam....

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by thumperclone on 10/07/16 at 12:20:46

living trough two of them you cannot be over prepared

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by raydawg on 10/07/16 at 13:21:47

Throw a flag on yourself web  ;D

I am with the tcloner on this one  :-*

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by WebsterMark on 10/07/16 at 13:37:30

body bags? really?!

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by thumperclone on 10/07/16 at 13:42:34

hurricanes kill, some 100 in Haiti
better to have them and not need them
than to need them and not have them

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by raydawg on 10/07/16 at 14:01:45


1A282F3E39283F002C3F264D0 wrote:
body bags? really?!


Web, I believe you hate when the left sensationalize, yes?

Lefts be thankful God heard my prayers  ;D

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/16 at 18:49:42

I'm just confused,,,, I'm trying So Hard to understand HOW can They know SO MUCH about what the weather will be in fifteen years, but have No Frikken CLUE where or how mean an Existing hurricane will be in two days.. ???
And, they have KNOWN for so long that hurricanes would increase in frequency and strength,, but Florida has made about a decade untouched.

Just How WRONG does someone have to be before they lose All credibility?

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by LostArtist on 10/07/16 at 19:22:04


253A3C3B2621102010283A367D4F0 wrote:
I'm just confused,,,, I'm trying So Hard to understand HOW can They know SO MUCH about what the weather will be in fifteen years, but have No Frikken CLUE where or how mean an Existing hurricane will be in two days.. ???
And, they have KNOWN for so long that hurricanes would increase in frequency and strength,, but Florida has made about a decade untouched.

Just How WRONG does someone have to be before they lose All credibility?



well, that's where WEATHER and CLIMATE differ.  

and while Florida was untouched, in the Pacific, it was quite a different story, or don't you remember the news of the tremendous Typhoons they were getting  in the Philippines and such

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/16 at 19:26:05

Yeah, they have been screaming for fifteen years that in ten years we are screwed, and they can scream about the future, fifteen years out, predicting the tragedy, but Two Days of an EXISTING hurricane is impossible.
You don't see how contradictory that is..
I get it..

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by LostArtist on 10/07/16 at 19:42:37


27383E3924231222122A38347F4D0 wrote:
Yeah, they have been screaming for fifteen years that in ten years we are screwed, and they can scream about the future, fifteen years out, predicting the tragedy, but Two Days of an EXISTING hurricane is impossible.
You don't see how contradictory that is..
I get it..



well, the "THEY" you are using are different THEYs  one group are CLIMATE SCIENTISTS,  the other group are METEOROLOGISTS, sometimes they cross over but not always.  both can be independently wrong without contradiction

if you don't actually understand the difference... okay I get it....  

weather is NOT climate


Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/07/16 at 19:53:53

I'm well aware of that.
I find it humorous that together, the weatherologists and climatologists, can scream about in ten years what horrors await, and WRONG AS FUKK FOR TWENTY YEARS, but they run in circles and scream
Be afraid, be very afraid
Because we have a hurricane we can see, but have no idea where it is going or how big it will be.

Get over it, GW is a scam.
Hillary is a scab, err, scam..

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by thumperclone on 10/08/16 at 00:28:18

the ice pack isn't melting
the glaciers aren't receding
the sea level isn't rising ::)

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/08/16 at 01:43:59

Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by WebsterMark on 10/08/16 at 03:55:31

Lost, Is a hurricane a weather event or a climate event?

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by thumperclone on 10/08/16 at 17:23:43


36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 wrote:
Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

exactly
not off the top of my head but a lot

if you know this how can you say and I quote:
"GW is a scam" ??

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/16 at 06:36:12

How many times do you have to be shown?

Here's the
Logic.


Earth, centuries ago, had glaciers. Many, and farther South than the Arctic circle. The Great Lakes ,,,



The Laurentian Great Lakes were formed nearly 20,000 years ago when the earth's climate warmed and the last glacial continental ice sheet retreated. The glacier, up to 2 miles thick, was so heavy and powerful it gouged out the earth's surface to create the lake basins.
About Our Great Lakes -Background- NOAA Great Lakes ...
https://www.glerl.noaa.gov › ourlakes



What CAUSED  the Earth to warm THEN?

The Medieval Warm Period, archeological findings show that grapes were being raised farther North in Europe than is possible right now. The Logical conclusion is
It was Generally Warmer THEN.


The same people who were screaming twenty years ago that in fifteen years our world will be dramatically changed.
They told us that we would see more frequent and meaner hurricanes.
Meanwhile, Observed Reality disagrees.

And for the Great finale, setting aside how as we've seen changes in Our polar ice, and that other planets spinning around the same
NOT PERFECT STAR,
The Sun, while Apparently stable in its glow, actually changes.
Unless someone can explain Why the glaciers existed, then retreated, and the medieval warm period, and why telescopes Show smaller ice caps on other planets...


And unless someone can explain why, in the age of technology and solar power, we stopped using weather stations in remote locations. Yes, Virginia, we are told that a weather station on a rooftop, within feet of the AC exhaust, will show us accurate information that we can use
And once again, once the dumbmasses believe there Is a

Problem,
They will have a
Reaction
To which the
Solutions
Already exist.

Yes, Virginia, the same dependable people who tell you how many are unemployed, and why we need to be rid of Gadaffi, and all those other lies, are using Your money to lie to you, because they want more control and the carbon tax dollars.

That's how I can say GW is a scam.

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/16 at 06:54:22

I have to agree with Jog. A very short 15,000 years ago, you couldn't stand on what now is the shores of Chicago's Lake Michigan because in wasn't there yet, it was a glacier.

No one argues against the science of the greenhouse effect, that's proven. What we do dispute is the theory we've put enough of one greenhouse gas into the atmosphere to warm the planet far beyond it's normal warming. And it is naturally warming or there'd still be glaciers over Chicago.

I think it's likely we've influenced the warming to a very small degree, but I think it's not even measurable and I'm not willing to lower my standard of living or condemn poor nations to poverty. There's about a million things more important than this overhyped climate change.

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by thumperclone on 10/09/16 at 07:38:53

yes
earth has a natural cycle
how can that be a scam?


Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/16 at 07:50:48

Who said a Natural Cycle is a scam?
I said GW, being sold as a man made problem, with the Solutions FOR that problem being limiting Your carbon footprint , by scaling back the size of YOUR house and paying carbon taxes,,  etc...


So, again, you show me who you really are. You're PRETENDING I said something, and Natural Cycle wasn't mentioned until you tried to pretend that the commonly accepted, though scientifically incomplete,term to describe anthropomorphic global warming,  GW is interchangeable with a Natural Cycle.
No WONDER you can believe that someone who could defeat a candidate in a heads up race wouldn't be helpful to another candidate by endorsing and campaigning For them.

Does This look staged?

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by thumperclone on 10/09/16 at 09:01:32

gw is real
even when I agree with you, you argue
you off your meds again?


Title: Re: Matthew
Post by Serowbot on 10/09/16 at 09:26:02

The Earth does have it's natural cycles,... but this time it's sped up by near 1,000 fold... and the only causative outlier is us...

...but, whether you believe that or not,... we better start preparing for the consequences...
We're looking at a mass migration of 100's of millions of displaced people,... and farmable land...
The breadbasket/grain belt may move to Canada...
How long do we try to hold back the tide in our major coastal cities?...

There are three camps here...
GW deniers...
Man-made GW deniers...
..and, science...
...but we're all going to see, and pay, for the results of our inaction...

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/16 at 10:23:07

Fat Al,  possibly the world's biggest hypocrite.

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by WebsterMark on 10/09/16 at 10:23:43

where did you get the 1000 fold figure from? is that literal or just someone's figure of speech?

100's of millions? Breadbasket in Canada?

15 years ago, i was told the sea would be uninhabitable...

and this Matthew is a perfect example, hyped as the storm of the century, but reality turned out to be something less than that.

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by raydawg on 10/09/16 at 11:22:00

If....

IF.....

IF........


And "if" God is real........

You think GW is hot  ;D

but we're all going to see, and pay, for the results of our inaction...

Sounds like a religion to me  ;D  :-[  :-*

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/16 at 14:27:33


160A170F120710010E0D0C07620 wrote:
[quote author=36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 link=1475862208/0#14 date=1475916239]Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

exactly
not off the top of my head but a lot

if you know this how can you say and I quote:
"GW is a scam" ??[/quote]

Talk about moving the goal posts..


Title: Re: Matthew
Post by thumperclone on 10/09/16 at 15:04:49


415E585F42457444744C5E52192B0 wrote:
[quote author=160A170F120710010E0D0C07620 link=1475862208/15#16 date=1475972623][quote author=36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 link=1475862208/0#14 date=1475916239]Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

exactly
not off the top of my head but a lot

if you know this how can you say and I quote:
"GW is a scam" ??[/quote]

Talk about moving the goal posts..

[/quote]
moronic buffon

Title: Re: Matthew
Post by justin_o_guy2 on 10/09/16 at 16:34:39


4B574A524F5A4D5C5350515A3F0 wrote:
[quote author=415E585F42457444744C5E52192B0 link=1475862208/15#26 date=1476048453][quote author=160A170F120710010E0D0C07620 link=1475862208/15#16 date=1475972623][quote author=36292F2835320333033B29256E5C0 link=1475862208/0#14 date=1475916239]Only for centuries. The only constant is change.
You know how much of Earth had ice on it?

exactly
not off the top of my head but a lot

if you know this how can you say and I quote:
"GW is a scam" ??[/quote]

Talk about moving the goal posts..

[/quote]
moronic buffon[/quote]

moronic buffon

moronic buffon


moronic buffon


I'm crushed, my ribcage is collapsing from the laughter..
Do you read the semi-pro moronic bufoOnery you type?
One would think that after being handed your ass so many times that you'd at least TRY to not be a buffon..
Buffon... is that short for something?

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