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06/17/16 at 14:54:07
 
If you weren't aware there is something referred as constitutional carry and 10 states offer some form of it.  Each state has it's own stipulation; although, they all offer some kind permit-less carry option.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry

Bot, Az is on that list, you pack'n heat......

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Reply #1 - 06/17/16 at 15:44:56
 
Eaux, Lookie! The map changes, the murder rate drops. Ohh, Gee, shuckey darn,,, no reason to believe that more guns in the hands of good people equals less killing.
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Reply #2 - 06/17/16 at 16:20:56
 
Nope,.. I don't carry...  never felt that scared...
Plus,.. guns are awkward to carry...

I do have a BFK, big friikin knife, on my bike... but it's just for show, and cuttin' things.
It's a bit of an experiment... I found it in the road, and have since been carrying it openly on my bike.  ...waiting to see how long before someone pinches it...
3 months so far...
...(rode 90 miles today in 100+ heat for a cheeseburger)... (had to get a last ride before temps go to 110+ next week)...
107 now...  Could hit 117 on Sunday!!!   Shocked  (hottest day in Tucson history)...
Next week I ain't going anywhere without air-conditioning... Grin
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Reply #3 - 06/17/16 at 17:49:28
 
I thought it was an interesting topic given the recent debate.  

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Reply #4 - 06/17/16 at 17:57:19
 
The map morphed to show the change in laws and as the number of guns ballooned and the murder rate drops.
Yeah, less is more.
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Reply #5 - 06/17/16 at 18:26:41
 
JOG,.. the chart shows expansion of carry laws,.... it says nothing about murder rate drop...
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Reply #6 - 06/17/16 at 18:34:13
 
No, Bot, IT doesn't. Are you saying that the murder rate has not been documented as dropping?
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Reply #7 - 06/17/16 at 19:00:37
 
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/fbi-us-homicide-rate-51-year-low

The US homicide rate in 2014, the most recent year available, was 4.5 per 100,000. The 2014 total follows a long downward trend and is the lowest homicide rate recorded since 1963 when the rate was 4.6 per 100,000. To find a lower homicide rate, we must travel back to 1957 when the total homicide rate hit 4.0 per 100,000.

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Reply #8 - 06/19/16 at 10:36:21
 
Perfect moment...

What was Known?

Everyone has been exposed to the facts.
The murder rate is Down and has been going down for years.
The map showed a basic timeline of the changing laws, as it has slowly been made easier and easier for citizens to carry.

During THAT time, murder rates dropped.

But, since the map of the changing laws Didn't also
Show the coinciding Drop in murder rate, Bot tried to pretend that what is the single most obvious truth to grasp was somehow not true.

Yes, Bot, you're correct. The map Does not show the murder rate. But, when you decide to Seek the Truth and stop throwing away everything that conflicts with the narrative, you too will understand reality.
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Reply #9 - 06/19/16 at 12:51:21
 
I am a bit surprised their aren't more takers on this one.  We have 10 states where nearly anyone can pack heat.....  

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Reply #10 - 06/19/16 at 13:29:29
 
When facts smash beliefs and talking points, they have Just EXACTLY enough good sense to walk away.
Juuust another smidgen of sense and a few pounds of honesty and Whammo,,,, instant Second Amendment supporters.
And they are Not staying around for That.....
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Reply #11 - 06/20/16 at 09:17:51
 
Get out of here with your facts, reasoning, and logic.


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Reply #12 - 06/22/16 at 10:36:45
 
Usually, the bouncer is outside guarding the door, not inside having a good time.
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Reply #13 - 06/27/16 at 18:50:09
 
California couldn't be on that list, way to many people in this state





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Reply #14 - 07/02/16 at 21:59:51
 
Serowbot wrote on 06/17/16 at 16:20:56:
Nope,.. I don't carry...  never felt that scared...
Plus,.. guns are awkward to carry...


It isn't about scared. My wife says the same thing about having guns in the house, she "doesn't like living in fear".

It's about preparation. Being in the military I carried a gun for a long time in a place where people shoot at you.

Here it is just about having a gun and not needing it compared to rolling into a situation, and by some remote chance needing one and not having it.

I still frequent gun free zones, but I severely limit my time in them. I wonder what happened to that LCDR who was packing when the recruiting center got hit. It is against the UCMJ for us to carry personal weapons on base, and for someone like me (paygrade wise), I would probably see brig time for that.

I would discuss my discomfort with that, but I prefer not to give them (the bad people) ideas like the press does all of the time. Tongue
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