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02/20/16 at 08:23:02
 
This is the claim HRC is making against the Bern.
OK, fine, but think about the issue, its Wall Street/Banking.

I have read some of the links you guys have posted about this industry, and how they deploy some sketchy operations, that border on Mafia type behavior....

Doesn't take much imagination to see how these implications impacts a whole lotta folks, in a negative way to our own well being.

If we are to start changing our system, for the better,  isn't this a great place to start?

Lets shine the light into the dirty dark secrets of this industry  Grin
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Reply #1 - 02/20/16 at 09:44:39
 
That, and a living minimum wage, income and wealth inequality, college tuition, Pro-choice, anti-war, nationalized health, climate change, racial equality, vet care, ... etc...

Bernie has basically the same positions as Hillary,.. he just states them more simply and forthrightly...
His message is more appealing, but less realistic in implementation...

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Reply #2 - 02/20/16 at 10:59:54
 
Serowbot wrote on 02/20/16 at 09:44:39:
That, and a living minimum wage, income and wealth inequality, college tuition, Pro-choice, anti-war, nationalized health, climate change, racial equality, vet care, ... etc...

Bernie has basically the same positions as Hillary,.. he just states them more simply and forthrightly...
His message is more appealing, but less realistic in implementation...



I think she states them for different reasons Bot.
She believes she has to say it, and he says it because he believes it.....

Hillary is a vote for more of the same, the same ol' SHIIT, that is  Grin

Would you rather deal with an honest person, even tho you don't hold all the same views , or a accomplished used car salesperson, who will tell you what you want to hear?
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Reply #3 - 02/20/16 at 11:38:09
 
Some guy named Ditch wrote this comment to an article about who to vote for. Interesting point of view.

"Zero hope for Merica is correct. Admit, none of the Repubs can fix any of this. All will offer reduced taxes, cut spending, a border fence,, etc. All of this is like putting band aids on a cut artery. We will continue to bleed for many years and only prolong the agony.

The big fat, grossly overweight Merica is dead, pull the plug, no more life support.

The only solution is shut it down and try again. That is why I am voting for Bernie, he is the quickest path to a total collapse.

Bern it to the Ground, vote for Bernie!"


Things are going to get ugly sooner or later anyway. I've been thinking that Trump was the guy to get the trainwreck going but maybe this Ditch guy has the right idea.
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Reply #4 - 02/20/16 at 12:25:26
 
That's REALLY interesting. Like tossing the adult, yet failed, child out.
Continuing with the policies that got us here will only create larger numbers of wussified people, gutless, unable to Grasp freedom and RESPONSIBILITY .
I'm amazed that the schools can even still find boys willing to play football. The gutlessness of this
Push button generation sickens me.
The idea that minimum wage, entry level jobs should be sufficient to live on is ludicrous. Where would I have ever found a job? A high school student, sacking groceries, trying to get the boss to choose Him as the next to train for checking, and then, to be a stocker... I worked 48hours three weeks a month, and the Sunday I took off, they had TWO sackers. Nobody could keep up alone, but me..

Buddy,you haven't seen unemployment and sky high prices until you try making minimum wage sufficient to live on.
Do the math. What DOES it take to pay rent, bills, groceries, insurance, all of it? There is No Way to pay low skill, entry level position people As IF they had somehow Earned a real paycheck.
I Had to get a Grown Man job in order to pay Bills. I couldn't go sack groceries at age 21, I had to Roughneck.
And a guy who weighs about 110, has a 24"waist and buys his clothes in the boys department ISN'T exactly Roughneck material, but I did it.
I'm disgusted by what I see.
Maybe Bern it down Is the answer.
Fixing what a corrupt system has created by working inside it?
Until people realize how society has been manipulated, by social engineers, and how the banks have been used to suck the marrow out of the labor, leaving the people impoverished, there Is no fixing it.
Drop YOUR agenda. Read the constitution, study history,
What would
Be Nice
AIN'T HAPPNIN...
It was a hardy bunch of people who made America Great, and the dependency on government as the source of making for a good life is Only what government wants.

The Cloward–Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a natio


Well, if it is or isn't the result of a determined few to feast on the guts of the masses or not, the results are the same.
Observed REALITY demonstrates that we are headed into a hole.
Looking BACK at the Society we HAD when we were prosperous
Might be a clue.

America is like a man who worked hard, took care of business, raised his family, relaxed, started drinking, and is coming to, divorced, and homeless, wondering how he got in such a mess.
Maybe HOW he got there isn't as important as him Remembering what kinda Man he Had been, when he was successful, and start working on reclaiming Those wwys.

How is it that EVERYONE knows that every trade deal has hurt Americans, yet , none are in danger of being repealed?
It's Almost as if there is someone choosing to make policy decisions that Hurt America..
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Reply #5 - 02/20/16 at 13:18:30
 
Look, if we could really, REALLY,REALLY educate our children WITHOUT indoctrination, but to learn a skill, trade, or to use their brain to think......
Removing higher education from the profit industry, and those who seek to only add to their wealth before task....

A lot of the ills of our nation will then be a windfall, finding repair, as these folks will be able to compete in a global market, etc, and become independent and able to produce, instead of take, from the system.

It would take a lot of change, but I see it can be a real possibility  Grin  

As I have shared, we GROW the pie, instead of thinking we have to take one piece of it, to give to another.....

More pie, more whip cream, elect me  Cheesy
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Reply #6 - 02/20/16 at 19:31:58
 
Why should Any service or product be
Not for profit?
I don't work for free. So, who should? And why should I pay for your kids education? It's Your Kid.. you want a doctor, you pay for it Or, he Wants to be a doctor, let him EARN it. Society Pays for basic education, because ignorant citizens are expensive. Look at how well we've done since we started Repairing the Failed educational system, you know,the one that had produced more patents, more entrepreneurs, you know, the FAILED system..
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Reply #7 - 02/20/16 at 22:13:28
 
Too easy for you to say, JOG...

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Reply #8 - 02/21/16 at 07:23:00
 
Until people realize how society has been manipulated, by social engineers, and how the banks have been used to suck the marrow out of the labor, leaving the people impoverished, there Is no fixing it.

One candidate has the same idea as you JOG  Grin

And we gut the education system, start over, no more social engineering but result based, producing a product that has the "tools" now to compete in this world who cares not one twit Debbie has two mommies.

And JOG consider it an investment, not a FREEBIE, as as educated society will rely less on the government to support it.

Dude, you gotta look at the long game here.
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Reply #9 - 02/21/16 at 08:01:52
 
I have..
Unless you have a source of wealth , socialism CAN'T CONTINUE.
Libya worked because they had oil, otherwise, the Constitution is the answer. Of COURSE, read by reasonable people, not socialist, societal engineers.
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Reply #10 - 02/21/16 at 08:05:45
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 02/21/16 at 08:01:52:
I have..
Unless you have a source of wealth , socialism CAN'T CONTINUE.
Libya worked because they had oil, otherwise, the Constitution is the answer. Of COURSE, read by reasonable people, not socialist, societal engineers.


Do you think there is only one answer based on the past, or do you think man can find a better way to govern by maybe borrowing ideas or creating new novel ones?

If no, then are we correct in saying democracy is a failed system too?
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Reply #11 - 02/21/16 at 08:30:15
 
First, we were never a democracy.
Second, recall that the Republic we were given was given with misgivings about the ability to keep it.
Note the Second Amendment. Understand why it's there.
The IDEA didn't fail, the corrupt people did. People who READ the ConstitutionAs they saw Fit.
When was the last time Congress actually did what America Needs?
Everyone, the rambling, drooling HOMELESS know that Every Trade deal has Hurt America, yet, nobody is ditching them.
Everyone Thinks agenda 21 is a joke, How are they gonna force people into the city? Screw up the water...

You don't Know what evil bastards run things.
Look up Rockefeller and what he ADMITS in
Memoirs,
I have posted it several times.
NAFTA, was gonna  make things Fair, level the playing field.

Look what got cut down to make things level.
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Reply #12 - 02/21/16 at 08:53:31
 
Ok, so we are broke, no matter what you call it......

What now, revolution?

Honestly, Jog, what and how?
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Reply #13 - 02/21/16 at 09:13:53
 
My Opinion, for what it's worth:
   It doesn't make all that much difference who is in the oval office.  The government is controlled by the "Party Bosses" and the funds and patronage they control. The party bosses are, in turn, controlled by the sources of the funds. Bureaucrats are controlled by the politicians and their appointees. The various government departments and agencies are all headed by political appointees.  The DOJ, the DoD, even the Fed..    As the man said "Show Me The Money!!" (and I'll show you who is actually running the country).    
    As my grandfather said in the 1960s, "We have the very best government money can buy."
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Reply #14 - 02/21/16 at 11:22:58
 
If Gore's lawyers had been allowed to steal the 2000 election, you don't things would have been handled differently after 9/11?

Elections matter, they have consequences.
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