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Reply #75 - 03/19/16 at 17:55:38
 
Dave wrote on 03/19/16 at 10:56:45:
I looked at a BMW F800 bike today and it would be great for me as a solo rider - but the rear seat doesn't look comfortable for a rider.   It is not nearly as bad as the sport bikes that put the rider up on a perch with their ankles 6" below their butt.....but it is not a touring bike seating position.


Dave, I've noticed that this passenger seat issue is a real problem with most bikes under 1000cc's
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Reply #76 - 04/05/16 at 19:37:25
 
Officially started my project today...  Bike on the lift at 10 AM and motor on the bench 2 hours later....  Note: No wonder why this motor is so limited. The intake is fairly clean, but the exuast port is terrible.  VERY restrictive.  Shocked   Any effort to increase performance should include porting. Smiley     This should not only improve performance, but reliability, as the engine should run cooler with a less restricted exuast gas (heat) flow.
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Reply #77 - 04/05/16 at 20:41:17
 
Cool Good luck with the project, old.indian.

I've just ordered a stage 3 cam from Lancer.
I already have a new Wiseco 95mm piston/rings/pin.

Good luck and keep us up to date on your progress  Smiley
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Reply #78 - 04/07/16 at 15:30:14
 
WARNING !!!! I got the engine torn down today with the following surprises... (note that I bought the bike Dec. '15  with 398x miles with "normal"  tire wear and now has 7150miles) ...Cam chain adjuster at near max extension and clutch worn.  Very slight scuff on piston skirt. Cylinder wall will hone nicely.    I have to think that the PO limited himself to 1 to 5 mile trips OR  he went full twist from day one.  The cam, followers etc. show clean and unscored.....
This bike showed clean with no visible abuse when I bought it.  But it is good that I tore it down when I did. I doubt if that cam chain extender would have lasted another 4-5 k miles.....
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Reply #79 - 04/07/16 at 17:00:41
 
old.indian wrote on 04/07/16 at 15:30:14:
WARNING !!!! I got the engine torn down today with the following surprises... (note that I bought the bike Dec. '15  with 398x miles with "normal"  tire wear and now has 7150miles) ...Cam chain adjuster at near max extension and clutch worn.  Very slight scuff on piston skirt. Cylinder wall will hone nicely.    I have to think that the PO limited himself to 1 to 5 mile trips OR  he went full twist from day one.  The cam, followers etc. show clean and unscored.....
This bike showed clean with no visible abuse when I bought it.  But it is good that I tore it down when I did. I doubt if that cam chain extender would have lasted another 4-5 k miles.....

WOW! Mine has just over 4xxxx now. I thought I had some time to get that Versy cam  chain adjuster.... Mebee not!!!  Shocked
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Reply #80 - 05/14/16 at 10:31:47
 
Here we are in the middle of May and it is taking a skosh bit longer than I planned to collect everything...   And of course with the inevitable "change orders" the budget has increased. BUT if the mail stagecoach gets through the Thumper "should" be back together and running before Memorial Day.... Cool  After break in I hope to get it in and dyno it. (At 6,000 feet I don't expect the same numbers as sea level, but the torque and HP curves will tell me what I need to know... Wink
New or changed bits and pieces as part of "The Project" (from the bottom up.)

New cam chain and Varsi's adjuster, Barrett clutch, Wiseco 10.5 CR 94mm piston, Lectron 38mm carb, ported and blueprinted head (with Varsi's head plug), stage 3 camshaft, 1.75 " header and Dyna muffler, 12" shocks, tachometer, and Kawasaki front pulley...  Cool

I expect about a 30% gain in torque and horse power, as well as an addition 500 to 1K RPMs from these modifications, without sacrificing reliably (if I don't go crazy).      
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Reply #81 - 05/14/16 at 16:35:52
 
old.indian wrote on 05/14/16 at 10:31:47:
Here we are in the middle of May and it is taking a skosh bit longer than I planned to collect everything...   And of course with the inevitable "change orders" the budget has increased. BUT if the mail stagecoach gets through the Thumper "should" be back together and running before Memorial Day.... Cool  After break in I hope to get it in and dyno it. (At 6,000 feet I don't expect the same numbers as sea level, but the torque and HP curves will tell me what I need to know... Wink
New or changed bits and pieces as part of "The Project" (from the bottom up.)
New cam chain and Varsi's adjuster, Barrett clutch, Wiseco 10.5 CR 94mm piston, Carb, ported and blueprinted head (with Varsi's head plug)stage 3 camshaft, 1.75 " header and Dyna muffler, 12" shocks, tachometer, and Kawasaki front pulley...  Cool
I expect about a 30% gain in torque and horse power, as well as an addition 500 to 1K RPMs from these modifications, without sacrificing reliably (if I don't go crazy).      



Yea, that can be the hard part sometimes.   Grin
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Reply #82 - 05/14/16 at 18:55:27
 
With all that going in, knowing what the throwout is made of, I'd sure be tempted to cut one out of billet.
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Reply #83 - 05/20/16 at 16:59:52
 
The last piece of the puzzle arrived Wednesday afternoon.  Cool
Started putting the puzzle back together at 9 this morning and broke at 12 to do the "Honeydos" for the rest of to day ....  Wink
Got done : Jug honed and cleaned, Wiseco piston installed, reworked head and stage 3 cam installed(with Varsi's head plug), valves adjusted, new cam chain and Varsi's adjuster installed, New Barrett HD clutch assembled and ready to install...   With a little bit of luck, and some help from my friends in the "Over the Hill Motorcycle Gang and Political Whine and Moan Society", I'll have the motor in the frame tomorrow... Cool
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Reply #84 - 05/20/16 at 18:51:50
 
Old Indian that all sounds really impressive. Keep that project can't wait to see how it all turns out. Best of luck to you.
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Reply #85 - 05/21/16 at 07:00:27
 
springman wrote on 05/20/16 at 18:51:50:
Old Indian that all sounds really impressive. Keep that project can't wait to see how it all turns out. Best of luck to you.


+1  Cool
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Reply #86 - 05/21/16 at 07:30:37
 
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Reply #87 - 05/21/16 at 09:21:52
 
Are the springs in the clutch meaner than stock?
The throw out is a known weak link.
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Reply #88 - 05/21/16 at 20:51:59
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/21/16 at 09:21:52:
Are the springs in the clutch meaner than stock?
The throw out is a known weak link.


Slightly, but I don't expect to be abusing it.  
From the condition of the original cam chain and piston, the original owner neglected proper break in and twisted it too soon.....
That new Wiseco piston is beautiful. Almost to pretty to hide inside the jug... I didn't weigh them, but the new Wiseco "felt" a few ounces lighter than the stock 94 mm.      I think that porting and blueprinting the head is the key to getting the most out of this engine.        
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Reply #89 - 05/22/16 at 14:00:38
 
There is a coating for the jug, but I don't know what it costs.
I'd sure hate a report that the throw out gave up.
I shimmed the springs with One washer and matched thickness of them. Mine gave up a few thousand miles later. Busted some stuff up, close to home, inexpensive but not hassle free. I ditched the shims.
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