raydawg wrote on 01/01/16 at 21:03:09:
" ... Can we try to have some dialogue on the subject, ..."
“ …very ignorant about the matter, as I don’t owe or use guns myself. …”That is the the, very, VERY, vast majority of the problem.
(Not you specifically dawg, but the people writing laws,) and voting to ban guns
“ … I don’t see how this will really reduce the crime, …”It doesn’t. Time after Time, it is PROVEN.
But the Anti’s just keep lying and Spinning the facts,
enlisting, FEAR, into the people that are,
“ … ignorant about the matter…”“ .. Obama wants to go after the on-line sales, …” Ohhh, that sounds SO Bad !.
‘ANYONE, can go on line, and Buy a Gun’.
That statement, ’sounds’ so bad, but, it is, ‘Partly’, true,
it is ALSO,
Lying, by omission of Fact.Guns are NOT like a tea cup, you buy on fleaybay.
But the Gun Grabbers, put FEAR, into the people that are,
“ … ignorant about the matter…”Yes, a person CAN, buy a gun On Line.
I’m in Minn, I, ‘Buy’, a gun off the internet, from someone in TX..
I, ‘Own’ that firearm.
(Now for the REST of the Story, as P.H. always said)I, can NOT, ‘Possess’, that firearm, Until it is Shipped, to a Federal Firearms Licensed Dealer, (FFL), in MN, and I go, to that local Dealer, and fill out the 4473, (4 pages both sides), do the NICS check. (The Background check, that is ALREADY in place governed by the FBI). THEN, If I am ‘approved, and IF, the guberment, who do the NICS check, Approves. THEN, and only then, can I, ‘Posses’ that firearm.
“ … and small time gun show dealers who are what, exempt, from the requirements of full time shops, …”Again, a total, complete
LIE. Repeated over and over AND OVER again, that the
Gun Grabbers use to put, FEAR, into the people that are, “ … ignorant about the matter…”.“ … Can someone tell me the way(s) to currently purchase a gun now? …”Go to ANY gun shop, look at a firearm, and ask what you have to do to, buy/Posses it!
Local law, varies, as to the, State, County, City, you are in. And that is Added on to the Fed Law, Which is: 18 for a long gun, 21 for a handgun, Must be Citizen of the USA, a resident of the State, (unless it is a long gun, then, a ’touching’ State of your residence). Must fill out the 4473, the 1968 law. (do some people lie on that form? Well do some people lie on their Tax form, etc. etc, etc). Then, the dealer, calls in the NICS ‘check’, and you wait, until a response, is given, (Proceed/Delay/Denial). Sometimes up to 3 days, (More, if your, local, law says so). Most of the time, it is 10 -30 min.
‘Banning, ‘assault’ firearms. Again,
‘ ignorant about the matter’, comes into play.
And Again, the gun grabbers, use that phrase, JUST, to enlist FEAR, in the people that are,
“ … ignorant about the matter…”.Gee in 1908, Remington, made a Semi-Auto rifle. (their were other brands models, made before this), but this was generally believed to be the first one that worked well, and was reliable. Yet, If I took a can of BLACK, spray paint, painted the gun, someone, that is,
“ … ignorant about the matter…”. would most definitely call it a, ‘assault rifle’.
When Clinton first proposed his, ‘assault rifle’, ban. It INCLUDED, any Double Barrel SHOTGUN, with one Trigger !!!!! Because, it is a, ’semi-auto’. (Load TWO Shells, pull the trigger, bang, then Without Re-loading, pull the trigger again). It was taken off, thanks to the NRA, for catching it.
A, ’True’ ‘assault rifle, was first regulated in 1934. And a Civilian in the US can own one, but it is a VERY expensive process to do, and reams of paperwork, and often takes a YEAR + to be able to hold that license.
(All other firearms were relegated in 1968).
Now, their is one exception, the, ‘Face to Face’, transfer. (Some States/Places you can, some you cannot). Here is the LAW, concerning that. Both parties have to PROVE, they are of age, (18 or 21), Both parties, Have to Be USA Citizens. Both parties Have to be residents in the same State. The seller of the firearm MUST, ask; ‘Have you evener been, CHARGED, with a Felony, have you ever been, Convicted, of a crime of Violence, Have you ever been issued a restraining order. AND, MOST sellers, AND, receivers, on a (FF) transfer, ALSO, get a ‘Bill of Sale’, from each other.
Again, the ‘gun-grabbers’, say a statement something like, ‘Anybody can buy a gun from anybody else’, for the whole reason to:
put, FEAR, into the people that are, “ … ignorant about the matter…”.Again, do some people, LIE? Sure, Just like they LIE, about other things.
Do, Criminals’, obey the Law?
Let’s see, their is a, Law, one can’t drive Drunk. YET Drunk drivers account for FAR, more deaths then Citizens owning Firearms. Their is a, Law, about drugs, (illegal and prescribed), yet FAR more people die from that use.
Gee maybe something should be done about that. !
And the Number ONE, reason, their is the 2nd Amendment. Is to KEEP, YOU, FREE.
Because If, or when, the 2nd goes, the 1st will follow VERY shortly !
This is why, their are bout 75,000 + People, in the USA, that, ’TEACH’, (Voluntary), ‘Gun SAFETY’.
If you are a firearm user. Take someone, (who does not know), out to shoot. Explain to them how things work, Teach them the 10 Commandments of firearm safety.
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