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Microsoft FORCES Windows 10 Onto Windows 7 And Windows 8 users



Notice the change in the wording on the little picture -- it is COMING whether you want it or not.    Even if you tried to block it, some other pre-existing KBs (already approved and installed) are now modified to carry it on to your machine.  

It is there now, waiting to be triggered.

Now it is being repeatedly triggered on each reboot according to several UK users who are now fighting hard to KEEP Win 10 OFF THEIR MACHINES.



"The saga continues.

Following news that Windows 10 automatically downloads onto Windows 7 and Windows 8 for users who choose to upgrade, Microsoft has now confirmed it has taken things one serious step further: Windows 10 will now download on computers even when users chose NOT to upgrade.

This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer when a reader reported Windows 10 had been downloaded onto their computer despite the fact they expressly declined the opportunity to upgrade:

“The symptoms are repeated failed ‘Upgrade to Windows 10′ in the WU update history and a huge 3.5GB to 6GB hidden folder labelled ‘$Windows.~BT’,” the reader explained. “I thought Microsoft [said] this ‘upgrade’ was optional. If so, why is it being pushed out to so many computers where it wasn’t reserved, and why does it try to install over and over again?

Windows 7 and 8 users are now prompted to get Windows 10 - and it will download even if they decline... Image credit: Gordon Kelly
Windows 7 and 8 users are now prompted to get Windows 10 – and it will download even if they decline… Image credit: Gordon Kelly

He continued: “I know of two instances where people on metered connections went over their data cap for August because of this unwanted download. My own internet (slow DSL) was crawling for a week or so until I discovered this problem. In fact, that’s what led me to it. Not only does it download, it tries to install every time the computer is booted.”


Microsoft Confirms New Policy

Astonishingly this is not a one-off error. Speaking to The Inquirer, Microsoft confirmed this is now something they are doing to all computers running Windows 7 and Windows 8:

“For individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Update, we help upgradable devices get ready for Windows 10 by downloading the files they’ll need if they decide to upgrade. When the upgrade is ready, the customer will be prompted to install Windows 10 on the device,” said a Microsoft spokesperson.

Now let’s be clear here: with regards to Windows 7 and Windows 8 “individuals who have chosen to receive automatic updates through Windows Update” is essentially everyone.

So unless you expressly chose to switch off all Windows updates (not recommended), you will be receiving (and have already received) a 3-6GB silent download. As The Inquirer reader points out, this can be found at: C:\$windows.~BT

Note this is a hidden folder so to view it you need to open File Explorer and go to: Organize > Folder Options > View > Show hidden files, folders, and drives.


The Fall Out

So what to make of this? Quite frankly, while opinions remain divided over Windows 10’s forced updates, for Microsoft to presumptuously take a substantial chunk of every Windows 7 and Windows 8 user’s storage (and data allowance) downloading Windows 10 even if they specifically state they do not want to upgrade is a big step too far.

Personally I cannot see what Microsoft is trying to achieve here. When a user wants Windows 10 they will expect a large download to begin and there to be some waiting time. But Microsoft downloading Windows 10 anyway just to skip this wait for users who don’t want Windows 10 is complete madness."

good dog, I've been borged.  7/31 was the date.
the nanites are currently dormant, but just waiting.
I don't think I saw the documents and settings folder locked before.

If someone can lock it, they can put stuff in it...

Can't tell you the exact date I turned off auto update, but...
it was before 9/1 and there's 3 updates for WinDef, kb2592687, kb2830477, kb2574819 and kb2901983.
ah, update to ati radium driver on 8/23, that's when I last checked update was off.
and numerous failed upgrade to win10, last attempt 8/30, must mean all the nanites are there... waiting.  

A Kindle from AMAZON is based on Android Opensource Code but is totally open to AMAZON to search your habits.

Google Android is searched by Google, who makes no bones about it and Serge Brin has warned everybody for years that "There is no privacy on the Web, everything you do is monitored while going through the government controlled nodes."

But, to date, Google has never tried to take over somebody's device -- the worst they have ever done was to uninstall an application that was in their PlayStore that was found to be a malware.   Lots of notice was given on this and if the user wanted it they could put it back manually, but only with them knowing it was a tracking malware .....

Custom versions of Android from Samsung, LG and others are doing what Samsung and LG wants them to do.     The Chinese versions of Android are notorious for tracking you and reporting it back to China every few hours.

Right now Linux offers the best freestanding device, security wise, but that choice is still monitored by whatever your choice of browser does.

(and you need to understand what that is, BTW)




Relatively comfortable pre-crinkled tin foil hats, anyone?

Is it true that porn makes up about 25% or more of the internet.?

"This somewhat shocking development was discovered by The Inquirer "

I stopped reading the post after that line.... might as well said The Examiner or The Star....  

jcstokes wrote on 09/12/15 at 21:38:28:


Uh... not sure, wait until I finish downloading the Mother-of-all-GrannyParn and I'll let you know !



(Hope you see the joke in my pun)  

[had to re-edit a number of times because of the spam filter...]
...what's a guy gotta do to crack a joke on a Sunday morning ?