Serowbot wrote on 07/04/15 at 08:25:04:


I know you offer this observation in jest, and it is witty, but isn't it rather compelling that (a) sexual orientation trait also drags along some other associated wholesale similarities?
My brother in law, who was Gay, him and a whole lot of his friends died from AIDS I am sad to say.
I learned a great deal from them, gained a lot of insight from having asked many question, but as all of mankind, they too differ on many things, and beliefs, and are not "one size fits all" mentality that opportunis ( pro gay)  and  opposing factors, argue.

Now where was I, oh yeah.....

He was very good at putting clothes together, where hetero men  seem lacking, and interior designing too. Had the knack to move furnishings around to make a space look much better, and color schemes, etc....
And a lot of Gay men take pride in maintaining fit and trim bodies and looking snappy, where the Lesbians seem to run a little porky and adopt the man slob sorta look, well, kinda like me I mean....but my momma didn't name me Butch  

Everybody is different. Some people have violent allergic reactions to what others don't even notice. What had an MRI years ago and the contrast agent messed me up. Couldn't drive for six weeks. Some, a drop of peanut oil, dead. Recently, BPA was eliminated from baby bottles, but, those receipts  cyou get? BPA, why? Why are these chemicals used? Necessity? Baby bottles are working without it.

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Notice how many girls look grown up, but aren't?
If something is causing girls to hit puberty sooner, then wouldn't males exposed to the same stuff be less masculine?

It's a hot topic and we're being respectful for the most part on this board.

My bottom line: I'm straight as the day is long, and married. My attraction to womankind is visceral and thrilling, always was, and I embrace it.

Gay men and women attest they feel the same libidinal and emotional zap and thrill for their same sex, and it's just the way they are. They say it and live it like they're not kidding around.

I simply do not know what it is to feel that. So I cannot presume to judge it. I wouldn't want anybody condemning the way I'm wired.

Live and let live. Let everyone seek their own happiness and sense of what is right for them. I am threatened and diminished in no way by that. This is 'Murca and that's the basic idea after all.

I keep my nose out of other peoples' bidness and want them to keep their noses out of mine. This Supreme Court ruling is no problem for my world. Onward, same as before...

The second we made marriage a LEGAL status, with a set of rights and privileges attached to it, it is no longer defined by religion (seperation of church and state)
Married people even use a different tax schedule with lower tax burdens
Wait, that's because kids, you say?
Nope, that's taken care of by 'exemptions'
take a married couple with one kid vs a single parent with two kids
Who actually has more 'dependants' if the wife in the first couple works?
And yet, give an equal and fairly high income, the single parent will pay more because he's 'single' rather than 'married filing jointly'

Provided of course he;s in the higher income brackets
For some reason, 'married filing jointly' and 'single' have the same tax burden at lower income levels, and the gap appears and widens as income goes up (can you guys tell I always did my own taxes?  )
so no, the church doesn't get to define marriage along religious terms
And BTW, at various point in the bible polygamy and other such things are allowed, so even the bible doesn't define marriage as 'between a man and a woman' consistently

anyway my point is, once marriage contains certain
automatic rights and privileges and financial incentives, you can't discriminate due to race, creed, religion, or sexual orientation

if the church want to decide who gets married, the special treatment goes away

oh and just to really blow your mind, marriage was never intended for the common man, anyway, it was created to protect the nobility's 'legacy' in a patriarchal monarchy

Good post..
and just to really blow your mind, marriage was never intended for the common man, anyway, it was created to protect the nobility's 'legacy' in a patriarchal monarchy

Got anything handy for me to look at?

HovisPresley wrote on 07/14/15 at 15:23:57:

Thanks Hovis

is better I think
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