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Re: Update on E-Cat, state of oil markets, etc
Reply #435 - 08/02/16 at 14:48:29
 

Verified -- ongoing production has begun on E-Cat 1+ Megawatt super saturated steam plants.

Orders are at 3 + 2 and increasing .......    Rossi has agreement with at least one knowledgeable distributor to plumb in the plant to customer's heat exchanger while the LENR plant is being built.     Rossi's own people will over see the run in period once the E-Cat is installed.
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Reply #436 - 08/02/16 at 14:57:24
 
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A typical (500 megawatt) coal plant burns 1.4 million tons of coal each year. As of 2012, there are 572 operational coal plants in the U.S. with an average capacity of 547 megawatts. Coal pollutes when it is mined, transported to the power plant, stored, and burned.


That's a lot of 1 MW Ecats   Cool

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Coal generates 44% of our electricity
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Reply #437 - 08/02/16 at 16:05:39
 


Dreamers see these racks as 5 megawatts for each enclosure as shown.    

Historically, Rossi doubles the energy output per cubic space each generation of machine, and he generally does an upgrade generation a year, generally speaking.   So I can see them becoming 10 megawatts per enclosure within the first few retrofit upgrades at the "change out the worn out cores" stages (which happens every year now).

We are at the very early "first expansion into commercial reality" stage.   When Westinghouse was at that stage with Tesla, it was at the Niagara Falls hydroelectric station and the first turbine powered (brushed commutator) AC generators.   Station #1 was very primitive compared to Station #2, ditto compared to Station #3.  

New tech gets better VERY quickly .....

Coal power production, the digging, transporting, ash disposal, ongoing plant maintenance is actually very expensive compared to what Rossi has already accomplished.

And Rossi and crew will only get better at it.   So far Rossi only claims up front about half of what the equipment can actually do and on top of that he provides for ample spare cores for downtime maintenance.


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What has become clear is that a single "expert operator" still has to attend the existing level of Rossi Tech when it is installed on a major user site.    Once a site and a level load pattern is established then that site's software can be hand-tuned to optimize that site's COP.

Only by doing it, can the excitement optimization (over the full one year wear life of a reactor rod) be laid down in code.    It is hoped that the new reactor refinements and control refinements will allow a more stable and generic start up and first run, but it is suspected each major plant will run slightly differently over the long haul as the isotopes within each rod will mature at different rates based on usage rates / load rates.

This is still old Ford Model A level equipment, after 3-4 years of run time Rossi and crew will know enough to perhaps go to the Model T level and perhaps be solid enough to sell the tech widely worldwide without on site keepers.

Last major plant I worked at had an AC Tech that worked for the AC company who had a workshop up on the roof of the plant.   He attended the very large R12 refrigerant (1960's vintage) spiral compressors that those chiller plants utilized as he had to rebuild them on the spot in a endless dance to keep ahead of the summer heat.

Same plant had a live in controls tech who worked for the controls company (same 1960's vintage stuff) because the controls needed constant calibration and repair to keep the plant running 24/7.   The tech really wasn't reliable enough, and since it was an integral part of their fixed capital equipment they were stuck with it.

What pays for the required technician?    2-3 times lower energy cost compared to existing options like gas or coal.    This level of return is easily twice as good as the required $$$ profit financial bean picker would approve capital dollars for --- enough to pay for the technician and the yearly reactor and controls replacement as the tech matures year on year on year.

Mind you, Rossi tech won't spread out radically until the technician is no longer required to be on site, so you can see why Rossi is adamant he will TRY TRY AGAIN to redo the design to try to get there inside of one year, one pass.

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Reply #438 - 08/07/16 at 05:48:20
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/08/06/industrial-heat-responds-to-rossis-compl...

As expected, IH has responded to Rossi's lawsuit, claiming massive fraud on the set up of the test (the test that they couldn't be bothered to set up) and disavowing the ERV expert that they had agreed upon in writing (disavowing after the fact, of course, and after the bill came due as a matter of fact) and instead IH is referring technically to a brand new party no one has heard about in the LENR world so far, one that says that in his opinion that nothing really happened, it was all a fraud.   This new "expert" (cut out person) is Jeb's source for all his fraud theories he has been spewing for the last 4 months, so we know pretty much what he is going to say.

Now, my operating theory is that the truth is often muddy and vague, something that takes place in between all the histrionics of life.   In my mind, Rossi isn't clean handed on all of this, nor is IH.   The one year test was something IH definitely welshed on, and Rossi went ahead and personally made it happen anyway using clever methods that are going to be considered suspect by the attacking counsel.  

Considered suspect, as will all of the one year test results that flowed from it.  Since the ERV himself has now been attacked, none of the long term data will be considered valid unless the ERV is very completely exonerated.   If even one fleck of shite sticks to the ERV, then his results go down the toilet with him.

A long court trial is coming, to be sure.   Dirty laundry will fly up in the air all over the place.    Lots of "He said, she said".

The customer for the steam will be dragged into court and forced to testify and provide data, something they DID NOT WANT TO DO ALL ALONG.   At this stage, no one wishes to be drawn in to this fecal circus as this will be messy to the 10th power before it is over.  Expect every anti-Rossi point to be expounded upon profusely by hot fusion experts and for press releases to come out daily, ground out by the media machine that has been hired.

Please note:  if IH is being paid (along with the APCO media manager and the Jones Day legal group) to DELAY the implementation of LENR for X number of years then they are proceeding along with a game plan that is very likely to work to achieve that goal.  

Rossi will stink after this is over, even if he was totally clean handed during the whole thing.

I think he was too ego driven and that he got too clever, and now he will pay the piper for his cleverness by losing all credibility during this shite storm contest that is coming next.

Getting that second reactor up and running (generating tons of fresh data) is of primary importance to Rossi right now, as without a flow of unimpeachable new data he may well get sucked down the toilet bowl swirl that is coming.

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Reply #439 - 08/07/16 at 07:38:32
 
Your opinion, please.

Is/was this game an attempt to steal the technology?
Keep it mired in doubt, locked up in litigation, and generally just an attempt to keep it out of production?
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Kinda guy. If I could help you get a Eleventy Gazzillion Dollar technology into the market, and All I got was twenty percent, well, I'd be happy...
Who would risk Those Earnings to take a shot at having the whole pie?
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Reply #440 - 08/07/16 at 16:33:35
 

Considering the nature and type of the APCO press group and the top notch dirty pool legal help that comes with the James Day people, I would guess that it involves foreign petrodollars, big domestic finance fat cats and national politics and all of them wanting to stall LENR for as long as possible -- this is what makes up the name of this game.

Please remember, about 40% of our entire economy is tied up in petroleum this and that .... you don't disrupt that much of your Gross National Product casually.   You bring it on in a careful fashion so as not to tank your economy.   Right now the fat cats are struggling to get out of oil, they are finding very few buyers right now and the fat cats are busy stuffing it into working people's retirement plans as a way to dump the coming losses.

Given a Hillary presidency I do not think that Rossi stands a snowball's chance in hell.

Can't say anything better about a Trump presidency.

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Reply #441 - 08/07/16 at 17:35:34
 
Understood, agree, and will add,
I'm just surprised that All the hassles and legal wrangling, roadblocks, gee, I'm just shocked he hasn't shot, hanged dragged and drowned himself.
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Reply #442 - 08/08/16 at 05:06:43
 

That weird, egotistical Italian has got a working grip on a critical new technology.   He hasn't taught his bag of tricks to anyone, correctly thinking that the needle in the night could come to visit him if he did actually transfer his knowledge.

Especially that new E-Cat X technology, something nobody knows anything much about that other than perhaps ABB who is working with Rossi on the production equipment in Leonardo's plant up in Sweden.

Rossi has said a dozen times or more that his stuff HAS to fall in line with the normal generation of power in America (stay well behind your kilowatt meter on your house) or it will not be permitted to be, at all, in America.   For him to pursue  only 1 megawatt plants in the USA has a reason behind it.

This is why he poo poos all the American folks saying "distributed off-line power generation" because he KNOWS it is never going to happen in this lifetime, not out of America anyway.

It is also why he is working with the Norwegians and the Brits -- the Brits have no oil to protect but they do have a whopping big oil bill every month.   Although the Swedes have oil, they really have to sell it to make a buck for their economy, and they are currently using up way too too much of their fun money just heating their residences in those cold cold cold Swedish and Norwegian winters.

Rossi can see Brits and Swedes going with smaller distributed local power uses, but not the Americans.   Ergo development and production of the small E-Cat X units will happen in Sweden and Britain, not America.
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Reply #443 - 08/09/16 at 17:57:41
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/08/09/airbus-lenr-patent-application-published...

Airbus files LENR patents using Rossi like tech -- amazing, isn't it ????    IH peddles Rossi's Lithium  & Nickel powder tech all over the place and now these derivative patents are popping up like popcorn all over the place using that exact identical same technology.

Gonna make the lawyers wealthy, that's all.

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/294715828_A_Technique_for_Making_Nuc...

This one is new, the method is new and the intended use is war-like, exploding shell projectiles and such.

I bet this johnny gets 100% funded ASAP by DARPA.
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Reply #444 - 08/11/16 at 13:04:05
 
Speaking of the Department of Defense, IH's new "LENR systems" expert Murray that IH is  quoting in court documents is an electronics expert from the DoD who first visited the i Megawatt Florida site in the company of an APCO operativer.

IH and DoD and APCO and James Day Legal Services --- very Military/Industrial Complex type people.


Yes, this whole things stinks to high heavens ....



Not surprising at all Rossi did not want the known DoD op. Murray to trash the test after Darden visited the GPT plant with the Apco op. (McLaughlin). Anyone would be rightly suspicious after that ...
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Reply #445 - 08/11/16 at 14:03:38
 
Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/08/16 at 05:06:43:

That weird, egotistical Italian has got a working grip on a critical new technology.   He hasn't taught his bag of tricks to anyone, correctly thinking that the needle in the night could come to visit him if he did actually transfer his knowledge.

It seems to be something more than logic can resolve.
If it were, software could handle it.
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Reply #446 - 08/12/16 at 03:39:46
 

With the massive worldwide transfer of Rossi's confidential IP by Industrial Heat, DoD, APCO and the now known connections between Industrial Heat and several government agency programs (where IH's new experts come from) the world of LENR has grown exponentially.  

I think that sending the illegally shipped Rossi IP out into the world actually promoted some real progress on many many .gov fronts.   This is also why I do not think Rossi can win in a USA courtroom -- the fix is obviously in on the .gov side of things.

Consider what happened to Rossi in Florida to be akin to military/industrial complex type spy vs spy espionage and you have a somewhat better grip on what actually took place.

Our Congress recently got all red faced about all the secrecy bullshite concerning LENR, this has pushed a great many secret programs out into the light, at least exposing them far enough to see that they exist now.

This is what LENR looks like right now, and we know this isn't all of it as much in the commercial realms (Mitsubishi, Toyota and others) are still being held very low key by those corporations.   Several of these corporations have been pushing out local national patents at a furious rate for over two years now.  Misubishi has elemental conversion patents on a Tungsten to Platinum conversion for example.




Rossi's Secret Sauce may be taking a good functioning reactor apart and re-powderizing the fused mass of stuff inside it and mixing that crushed up currently working stuff into a new batch of fresh nickel powder / lithium at a certain starter ratio.    In short, they may not really know 100% why the original reactor decided to start itself up,  but now that they can seed more reactors off the old ones, who cares?

Yes, somewhat akin to alchemy, but if it works who's complaining ???   Right now here at the start of the LENR unfolding, old school alchemy can be your friend as long as it leads to something that is working OK for you.
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Reply #447 - 08/17/16 at 10:52:52
 

NASA comes out of the closet  .....   they have a methodology to test "Rossi type" mixes at 48 mixtures per small sample.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBjA5LLraX0

Watch it and read between the lines -- Rossi is being blocked by testimony provided to IH given by .gov agencies "experts" who are doing a little turf protecting of their very own.    

IH/APCO/Jones Day Legal  is now coming across as just a delaying technique which serves financial and governmental interests at this time.

Rossi is an old man, they expect him to die naturally before completing anything that can disrupt these interests.
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Reply #448 - 08/17/16 at 13:41:53
 
WHen the goobs support something, I question it.
When they start downing something, I look carefully at it.
It's late in the game for the goobs to be having an opinion.
Looks like they were Hoping that
He would fail
He would die
He would, uhh, commit suicide
He would step in front of a bullet
He would fall on a knife
Alas, he continues to suck air and make progress.
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Explain to the masses that he is a con artist.
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Reply #449 - 08/31/16 at 06:14:24
 

http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/08/31/rossi-provides-projected-timeline-of-e-c...  


Rossi Provides Projected Timeline of E-Cat Development

Andrea Rossi was asked yesterday by a reader on the Journal of Nuclear Physics if he could provide a schedule for upcoming E-Cat deadline.

Rossi’s response was this:

Andrea Rossi
August 30, 2016 at 8:44 AM

1- continue the manufacturing of the industrial plants: NOW
2- complete the R&D of the QuarkX to sell the first unit: within 2016
3- presentation of the QuarkX prototype: within 2016
4- start massive production of the E-Cats in the USA and in Sweden: 2017- 2018
Thank you for your attention,
Warm Regards,
A.R.

There’s apparently a lot going on at the moment with manufacturing and R&D — although not on a mass-production level. We don’t have details on who has made the first orders, but from what Rossi has said, he seems to refer to at least two customers — one being the parent company that used the energy from the Doral plant, and the other being a district heating customer in Sweden.

Interesting that he says there will be a “presentation” of the QuarkX prototype this year — that sounds like a newsworthy event if it happens. I hope we get more details on that. Rossi has always talked about his hope for “massive” production of the E-Cats. If it works as he says, I can understand the excitement, but there will be a lot to do to get mass production set up, especially with the current lawsuit pending. Rossi has said recently that he is spending 40 per cent of his time on the legal case.


Rossi needs to keep on top of his legal case, and Rossi needs to complete and install the plant for "a district heating customer in Sweden" before the cold sets in this fall.   This one is very important to finish ASAP as the COP data from it is going to be ongoing proof that IH lied and defrauded Rossi.

His other customer (the one from Doral Florida) will not want to have his business discussed in court and will likely NEVER allow tours or data sharing of any sort since his is a secretive sort of business involving a lot of precious metals.  

However, I think the municipal central heat place won't care if Rossi shares data and does a limited amount of tours.   It has no "interests" to protect and it is a form of public facility after all.
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