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Stand  UP  !!!!!!!!
07/04/14 at 14:08:36
 
Stand  UP  !!!!!!!!

About 7 years ago.  was working in a  Gun Shop.
It was my turn to lock up. Was able to do this is  at 6PM
But, a good customer came in, and we were, just, ‘Shooting the Bull”.
It was 7PM, Both of us looked out the window,
and a, ‘group’ of teenagers, were coming into the shop.

The fellow I was BS’s with, said,  
(As I grabbed the Loaded Glock 21 behind me and held it behind the counter)
“If I see your arm move, I will just fall down, and shoot right over me”.

Well in walked 4, teenagers, all with hats on sideways, Baggy pants,
(waist down to their thighs),  and big baggy coats.

One came to the counter, and said:
 “yf gt dems 9’s ize wnns see dem 9’s”
While the other 3, spread out in the store.

I Just looked at him,   and he said again:
“wazza netter boy, don’s yas got any 9’s”

I Said, (With my hand still behind the counter with the Glock)

“ I do NOT speak Ubonice, so if you wish to ask questions, ask them in English”

He paused: Then I said, in a  LOUD Voice:
(Actually   VERY Loud)
“ You don’t speak English, you get  the F out of hear, Right NOW,
Do you understand.    You get the F out of hear     NOW”

Suddenly,  Those words, changed,
4   ‘Gang Banger’,  Dumb F’en Idiots,
into 4,    Curious teenage  boys.

ALL FOUR, turned their hats on straight, Two pulled up their pants!!!!!!

Then we had a 1/2 hour of, questions and answer,
ALL (from them), in  Perfect English.

Now, I am NOT Houdini,   So I wondered, why, they suddenly changed their demeanor.

A couple of weeks later, I happened on a, professor of,  ’Social Science”.
Told her what happened.  She said:
 “Simple,  NO ONE, has  Ever talked to them like that,
They have  NO, experience with authority,
They have,  always been, Used to,  Everyone, Fearing them,
Just because of the way they look and talk,
And used to doing what ever they want’.

So, I would suggest the lesson is:
Do NOT fear,    STAND ON YOUR OWN TWO HIND FEET.
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Re: Stand  UP  !!!!!!!!
Reply #1 - 07/04/14 at 14:24:25
 
stand up?

" ..I grabbed the loaded glock.."
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Reply #2 - 07/04/14 at 15:17:04
 
Yea   I  HAD  a  LOADED   .45 ACP,  
READY to   PROTECT  MY LIFE.
If needed.   It wasn't needed.

Do you have a, Fire Extinguisher,
In your house or shop?
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Re: Stand  UP  !!!!!!!!
Reply #3 - 07/04/14 at 16:05:08
 
A clever fellow at the airport I worked at years ago showed me how to talk ebonics with the Morning Wake Up Crew Ebonics Trainer.

Ebonics Language Lesson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EndozxolXKE


So I tried the best line here at home, using ebonics for a normal phrase of "my, you're a lovely young lady; I would like to make love to you" on my wife.  Shocked

I got an attitude adjustment, right on top of the head.  Grin

~~Attitude Adjustment ~ Hank Williams Jr~~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvEWYQGaFIc
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Reply #4 - 07/08/14 at 07:11:31
 
I do not know how it is around the rest of the country, but down here, "aggressive" talk from teens and blacks is rather the norm. This is learned behavior (including parents or lack thereof and schools) where loud authoritarian talk is the norm. Rather like being in the military.

To be sure, your method is one way to ( and in your case the best way) to take command of the situation. The other is to simply mention 'momma". No, not like in "I slept with" but along the lines " is that how you talk to your momma?". My son has a friend that is simply crude. he raises his voice and makes requests that I would consider invasive. Still, no matter how often I correct him, (with the 'aggresive" voice) he seems to like/tolerate me. It's like near animal behavior, which is sad. I also blame TV. It seems that back inthe 1800's everyone wanted to be more civilized, and be cultured. Now they just want to be brutish and aggressive.

As for me.. I consider myself "bad-assed"
married once/still for 27 years
house over head for whole family
always had food, medicine
sometimes had cable
16 yo son thinks I am cool
23 yo daughter calls to ask how to clean the vacuum (yesterday)
I hang out here...
everything else (loud voice, motorbike, guns) is not an attempt to prove myself to anyone.
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Reply #5 - 07/08/14 at 15:00:27
 
“What you allow,  Will Continue”

When a, group, of teens, in a  ‘gang’.
(And before all the Liberals, get their underwear in a bunch)

“Gang”    Also refers to, kids in 4-H, Boy/Girl Scouts.
It refers to the, ‘Shriners’, or, ‘Lions Club’,  Or a, stamp club, or a coin club, etc.
It is simply, Different, gangs, have different outlooks, and different leaders.
And are, ’taught’ different things!

(Gee, their are, ‘gangs’ of motorcycle  riders.
some ride around, enjoying the roads, scenery, towns and people.
Some are ‘feared’, when they come into a town)

In Minn, ’That’, group, was, TAUGHT.
And was Used to, And Expected, That, Anyone they encountered,
Was To be, ‘afraid’, of them by their actions/speaking/dress.

In MN,  especially, 40-50 miles away,
(from the core of the ‘big’ City),
That type of behavior is, NOT, considered the, ’norm’.

A friend of mine, teaches school, (5th grade),
in a school district, where they have the lowest graduation rate,
in the State, and one of the Highest, costs per student.
Almost twice as high, as one of the most effluent,
expensive, districts, which has a 99.9% graduation rate.

He has been teaching their, for 18 years,
(Drives 35 miles from the country to the city, ONE way, each day).

For the last 10 years, he has been grousing, about how hard it is.
For the last 8 years, I have told him, well, ‘QUIT”,  
and get a job out here, You would get hired in a heartbeat!
He tells me:   “I Can’t afford to work out here”.

So,  “WE”,  Allow, the Citizens, of the USA, to be divided even More.
“WE”, Allow it, by, NOT voting, We allow it by, NOT participating.
WE,  Allow IT, by  NOT  running for he local public office.
WE, allow it by, Not holding the public Officials, (who are elected), feet to the fire.
Put Down the Piazza, and turn Off the TV,
and STOP,  Letting the ‘government’, deal with it.
Because it is so much easier.

The, Leaders of some, ‘gangs’, TEACH, young people,
Even though we have the freedom of the 1st Amendment.
You don’t  yell:   “FIRE” in a crowed theater.
They teach them, ‘common sense’, and the ‘Golden Rule’.
they teach them to behave, they teach them to be respectful.
They Help them, ‘Grow-Up”, and become, Part of the Society they live in,
Not become a, burden, or feared, to those around.

Leaders of, ‘other’, Gangs, teach:
“You do what ever you want to do, to anyone you want to do it to,
  and when you do,  NOTHING will ever happen to you”

We will probably,  never, get back to the, ‘Viewed as idyllic life’,
Where, Beaver Cleaver’s biggest fear,
would have been, to hit a baseball,
in a sand lot game, and it went through Mr. Wilson’s window.

Things change. Look at how the word, ‘GAY’ has changed.
and if said today, it is the, ’NEW’, definition, NOT the, ‘old’, one,
that is, ‘automatically’, applied.
(Woe be it, if someone, was sincerely using the, ‘old’ definition,
and a, ‘do gooder’, overheard them)

Are their, ‘bad’ people?   Well Sure !  Always has been, always will be.

But I believe the, ‘goal’ is to, Teach, by what ever method works,
And whichever people can, ( Parents/parent, school Teachers, mentors, leaders of, ‘gangs’,
people behind the counter of retail establishments, people working in fast food or sit down restaurants,
Customers of such, people standing at the Buss stop, (or on one),
All People, in any and all, interaction.

That, ‘bad’, behavior, is NOT to be accepted or condoned.
And to do that, one has to:   STAND UP !

That Will Not, happen over night.
However if, “WE” ALL, take a role, in, ’teaching’.
Over time, their will be less, ‘bad’, people.

And their are people that will, vigorously, disagree, on, ‘HOW’ to do that.
Absolutely, Of Course !!!!!!!!
(I have a couple of, very good friends, who I will trust my 6 to ANYTIME,
and, they could be easily labeled, ‘Liberal’).  
I, If you haven’t guessed so far, I lean to the, ‘conservative’, side.
And why we, ‘argue’ about the ‘best’ way,
we STILL share a Beer & Hot dog, and are civil to each other,
and don’t,  KILL, each other,  JUST Because we disagree.
But we,  DO, agree, it has gotten, Out Of Hand!

The quote:  (Mostly attributed  to Edmund Burke)
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Is as relevant today,  as it was in1770,  and as it will be, in the future.
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