No to mention that, statistically,  a gun in a home is much more likely to kill a family member than a criminal...


Id like to see that proven.

What our media does is make tons of noise about guns & deaths. What they dont do is accurately report the times when a citizen thwarts violence by having a gun. In fact, Id bet that fewer than 20% of those events even get reported to the cops. I know I wouldnt call them & tell them if I stopped a thug by pointing a gun at him.,. The media is complicit in molding the attitudes of the people against guns.


Eric Holder says do it..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcSLhGvaTE

Use schools to brainwash the kids.

Ive listened to parents call in & read what their kids are being taught about the 2nd amendment. Its shocking & its FAR from what the 2nd amendment says.
Statistics have demonstrated that crime drops when the people start carrying guns. I remember when car jacking was all the rage. In La. there were people being killed almost every day. Finally the Governor said it was time for the people to defend themselves. Took about 2 weeks for the game to end. A good number of would be car jackers died, gut shot, writhing & screaming & bleeding out,, you know, you open a car door & someone is sitting there with a gun,, the gut is where the bullet goes.. You have an opinion, I say its based in what you want to believe. The world you would have is nice, it just isnt reality,.Decriminalize drugs & we will see a huge drop in violent crime, Bring back jobs & give people a shot at a decent future & crime will drop,, This is no accident. We have been de-industrialized & are being used as the strong arm of the thugs( Global Elite). Our military is being used to accomplish their ends.. We are being sunk economically. All those trade agreements that were supposed to "level the playing field"?,, Yea, that sounded good, BUT, they werent meant to raise everyone UP to our standard of living. They were meant to take us down, a LOT,, & Maybe bring them up, SOME.. Think Im wrong? Look at the results. Think those were "Unintended consequences"? Then how is I saw what was coming before Nafta was signed into law? Im not smarter than the lawmakers,, anyone could see what Nafta would do.,Well,, those who looked AT it instead of listened to what we were told about it,, we could,, Just wait till this new one goes thru. Mr TRansparent wont even let all of Congress see it,, Its gonna finish us off,, Thats why the goobs need the guns, cause our economy isnt ruined, YET..

Personally, I think the child proof gun is an important women's issue, and that if gun rights activists were smart, they would support the development of childproof guns as a measure to assuage the concerns of mothers as well as fathers.  I don't, however, think that childproof guns have to be criminal proof.  A simple mechanical safety that is defeatable by an adult, but mot a child, is what I'm looking for.

ihasabike wrote on 05/20/14 at 19:09:09:

The neighbors kid shot himself in the head when I was young.
I don't remember getting the talk.

There was a investigative news cast last year or so they did at a school.  10 yr olds or so.  moms swear up and down their kids wouldn't touch a gun, they all had gun safety in class.  they planted a gun in a room and left it for a couple of kids to find.  just about all the boys touched it, none of the girls.

Quote:

come up with a better mouse trap and you'll make a million.

old_rider wrote on 05/20/14 at 20:36:27:


I was taught to shoot a 22 rifle when I was 5 years old.  At age 16, I was a junior rifle and shotgun instructor.

[quote=shorty]we already have childproof trigger locks. It is required by law to have trigger locks on all guns if there is a child in the home. [/quote]

Do those trigger locks permit an adult to readily use the gun at need, without having to fish out a key and unlock it?

I have had gun discussions with a lot of ladies.  A lot of them just don't carry because they have young kids that could go through their purses and get their hands on the gun.  Can you teach a 4 year old not to play with a gun?  Would you even try?  Those ladies are not able to carry, so why should they agree that others should have that right?

I took my father in law's guns away except for the one in his nightstand. He was leaving them around the house, chambered, no safety... He and his (now late) beagle both wobble, a lot. I was carrying the 20g jam-0-matic home and it went off...

I admit I keep loaded guns close to hand, but the safety is engaged. Of course, most of them the "safety" is the operator physically thumbing the hammer back... Just like with motorcycles and trucks, I prefer old guns. My primary handgun is a .457 cap and ball revolver loaded with 50-60gr equivalent powder charges in each hole of the cylinder, capped and ready to go. I can hit a paper plate with it at 100 yards...

Been shooting since I was 10. Trained by German and American snipers. Zero accidental discharges of MY guns (including a highly modified pre-64 M70 .243 with a half ounce trigger pull), and I very rarely miss my targets, inanimate or living.

I was raised around firearms.
I had, and still have, a Red Ryder BB gun.
Moved up to .22 and up and up.

I was taught how to handle, care, respect, and be responsible.
I think I've posted it here but I only ever had one "accidental discharge" due to a build up of funk in a trigger in a shotgun but the barrel was safely downrange and no ammo was even near the gun before everyone was clear.

The traffic analogy is great.
Same thing with the hot stove.
I'm on the fence with the whuppin's but kids aren't all dumb. Talk to them like adults, preach the importance, they will listen.


--Steve