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justin_o_guy2
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what good ARE the gun laws?
07/05/13 at 00:21:57
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/18/biden-we-need-more-gun-laws-because-we-...

if people are simply told No, you cant buy a gun, but not investigated & prosecuted for attempting to illegally buy one, we really arent using the law as it was intended nor are we using it as well as we could,, kinda silly, really,,
i know i would never walk in & fill out those papers & lie,, id be scared of a looooong visit at a federal installation.
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Reply #1 - 07/05/13 at 06:33:14
 
What good are gun laws ... right, when there is 5-6 states that dont have any, and we have excellent roads to states that do.

Hey, I'm going to stop the air from SC from wafting over my state.

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Reply #2 - 07/05/13 at 07:10:38
 
point im making is, biden wants more, after saying we havent time & esources to use the ones we have,
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Reply #3 - 07/05/13 at 07:57:02
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/05/13 at 07:10:38:
point im making is, biden wants more, after saying we havent time & esources to use the ones we have,


That's true as per "hotair.com" in january of 2013.

I cant find nothing else - so true or not ... I dont know.

But the whole premise of "we have these 5000 laws and one more is going to make what difference" ... is an old one - very old one.

The 5000 laws are like this, there are 100 laws, and 4900 laws that give the NRA the loopholes they have been screaming for.

SC may be a NICS state, but this woman pled insanity in court and bought a gun and unsuccesfully tried to shoot people @ a private school. Maybe its  NICS state only if you're nto a criminal. You heard the NRA guy ... criminals will never go through background checks, so we need to give them the guns.

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Reply #4 - 07/05/13 at 13:15:48
 
I don't support the NRA or any gun group You heard the NRA guy ... criminals will never go through background checks, so we need to give them the guns. But I've never heard them say that.
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Reply #5 - 07/05/13 at 14:02:46
 
Midnightrider wrote on 07/05/13 at 13:15:48:
I don't support the NRA or any gun group You heard the NRA guy ... criminals will never go through background checks, so we need to give them the guns. But I've never heard them say that.


He said it - google for your preferred media outlet's audio -

But text - here is 1 I found -

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/30/wayne-lapierre-hits-back-during-he...

“When it comes to be background checks let’s be honest,” LaPierre said. “Background checks will never be ‘universal,’ because criminals will never submit to them.”

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Reply #6 - 07/05/13 at 17:43:32
 
& he is right,, people steal guns & sell them,, theres a complete " black market pipeline" for EVERYTHING. sex, drugs, guns, it is & will remain so.. now what?
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Reply #7 - 07/05/13 at 18:02:04
 
As I always say when the Fed try to pass more laws.  Enforce the ones you have before making it harder for people to do things legally.  The fact is simple.  Gun laws do nothing but limit the people who care about following the law.  Criminals could care less, so more laws will not make any difference to them.
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Reply #8 - 07/05/13 at 18:44:23
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 07/05/13 at 17:43:32:
& he is right,, people steal guns & sell them,, theres a complete " black market pipeline" for EVERYTHING. sex, drugs, guns, it is & will remain so.. now what?


He is right only in a very limited sense. Once a gun is sold, we completely lose track of it. In effect in SC people buy guns by the 100, or 1000. Then they are sold to their "associates" in NY or chicago.

That's cos there is no tying the gun, its rifling marks and serial # to one person. If it was, any time there is a gun crime, we will either have a killer in jail, or a trafficker. Guns need to be "registered to a person" @ all times. Else, it helps criminals and hurts non criminals.

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Reply #9 - 07/09/13 at 20:04:12
 
Why is it when I posted an article by The Blaze you criticize my source calling it biased but now you can post articles from them?


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Reply #10 - 07/10/13 at 08:11:17
 
Because its a right wing point of view - and I found it on several credible ones as well - picked blaze @ random - OK so here is print news sites -

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/29/lapierre-to-a...

There is several more, but seeing as its a january 2013 article, I am finding fewer and fewer from say USA today or PBS etc ...

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Reply #11 - 07/10/13 at 09:33:09
 
That's because the old media is obsolete. Dead, controlled.
That's why people should break free and shift towards new forms of media. Podcasts, forums, blogs.



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Reply #12 - 07/10/13 at 11:11:17
 
Paraquat wrote on 07/10/13 at 09:33:09:
That's because the old media is obsolete. Dead, controlled.
That's why people should break free and shift towards new forms of media. Podcasts, forums, blogs.



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The "new" media is full of flagrant (or is that fragrant) lies, speculation and outright lies ... like the famous 46 million in refunds given to 23,0000 illegals in 1 atlanta address ... that promptly got onto all the right wing nut blogs, and even onto Hannity.com, and as we were asking questions like, was it delivered snail mail, or electonic, and was it a house, a tax place, a money transfer station or what ... it disappeared ...

Sorry, print media is a far more reliable source ... It may be picked up by nut job blogs first, but if its not on real news media, even be it faux news, its too much of a clanger even for faux = its a lie.

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