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Re: Help! My Savage refuses to start!
Reply #30 - 06/27/13 at 22:50:06
 
If your mechanic put it together wrong and misdiagnosed the failure, he should reimburse you the cost of the starter he replaced.  I am a car mechanic and that kind of crap would never fly.  It is a pain to get them to do it, but it is the right thing to do.  Good luck.
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Reply #31 - 08/09/15 at 13:27:01
 
Hey everybody!  I've been lurking on the forum for a year now and have found it immensely helpful!!  I loaned my 07 Boulevard to my meth-head brother for a few months and had to pick up up last week when he went to start a long stretch in jail.  

Aside from having been laid over, a foot-peg replaced with a piece of steel, and some new scratches and dings... it wouldn't start and the problem I was having is 100% like this old thread.  He spray-painted the left cover and I don't think it worked after that based on the brand new oil change.

When trying to start it it just made a clicking sound.  I replaced the battery, tested the solenoid, and cleaned and tested the starter per the manual with a voltmeter.  It sounds like the starter is not engaging.

I verified the gear connected to the starter WILL spin in one direction.  According to this post a washer or some "clip" (not pictured in the Clymer manual) could be causing this issue.  

Can someone tell me if anything looks wrong here?
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Re: Help! My Savage refuses to start!
Reply #32 - 08/09/15 at 13:39:10
 
yes, washer on wrong gear, s/b like this...

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Reply #33 - 09/18/15 at 16:59:40
 
Thanks so much for the photo reply dude!  I finally got the new stator cover gasket, oil filter, oil and moved the washer from the right side to the left, when I tried to crank it it did this: http://youtu.be/3TfWR54Eka4. That's more noise than it was making when the washer was on the right, then it would only make the starter hum or just click. Any idea what could be going on now?
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Reply #34 - 09/18/15 at 17:15:46
 
Well, the motor is spinning.  That's much better than being bound up by a washer in the wrong place.

Is it spinning the right direction? Could be the sprague clutch is slipping if it is spinning the right direction.  Could be the torque limiter clutch is messed up somehow and just spinning instead of pulling.

Just from the sound, it sounds like the whole gear train is turning so I'm going to say either it's spinning backwards or the starter clutch is bad.  

Hope someone else has a better, less expensive idea.  If it's spinning backwards, make sure the battery is hooked up correctly.  If it is, the direction of rotation can be changed by rotating the brush plate 180 deg.
There is a spark plug in it?
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Reply #35 - 09/20/15 at 12:39:55
 
Thanks a lot for the reply Steve, the tip about the brush plate was terrific.  When it wasn't starting we cleaned the starter out, and must not have put it back together correctly.  After turning the brush plate in the starter IT TRIED TO CRANK!!, but the battery was SMOKING like crazy and the terminals on the battery were really hot.  The battery is brand new, and it smoked even harder when we hooked it up to a truck.  This is the 3rd battery we've tried in it.

Here's another video: https://youtu.be/gXHbJ66veYk

The horn sounded kinda weak.  I read it could be a grounding issue so we made an artificial ground with some jumper cables to the battery but it did the same thing.  We're thinking the starter is the issue?
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Re: Help! My Savage refuses to start!
Reply #36 - 09/20/15 at 13:33:26
 
I would put a volt meter on it to see what the cranking voltage it.
but it sounds like a dead battery.  put it on charge overnite and see what happens.
you should not charge over 2 amps.  check the water while you're at it.
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Reply #37 - 09/20/15 at 14:30:11
 
That means you're pulling WAY too much current.  Something is shorting somewhere.

It's very bad for a battery to get hot enough that therminals are very hot.  You can blow them up that way.
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Re: Help! My Savage refuses to start!
Reply #38 - 09/20/15 at 19:39:03
 
You're playing with fire.. If you're seeing smoke ,, things are getting really hot,  STOP.
And it's worse than the two times before, when you used the truck?
I'd be getting the starter checked out by a pro.

Guys, is there no fuse to protect the wiring harness that goes to the starter? Should the starter motor be Able to suck that much current?
I don't remember what the fuses were...
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Reply #39 - 02/26/17 at 18:55:17
 
I was browsing the forum and realized I didn't say how this story ended.. apparently the starter got burned out, probably from my brother trying to start it after putting that pesky washer on the wrong side. Replaced the starter and she has been running great ever since! Sadly she's all beat to hell and back now though. Don't loan your bike to a meth head.
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Reply #40 - 02/27/17 at 07:27:26
 
Don't loan your bike to a meth head.

Sage advice. But don't we all just wanna give someone One More Chance? I'm guilty of letting people screw me over.
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Reply #41 - 02/27/17 at 18:08:44
 
JOG ,the key word being One , in one more chance,and yes we can all be had once.twice is our own fault.
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Reply #42 - 02/27/17 at 20:03:14
 
I know, dude,, it was complicated..
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