Srinath wrote:

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Well, at least you got that right. You don't understand the second amendment and why it was written. It's got nothing to do with criminals. It's purpose was to insure the the GOVERNMENT could never disarm the citizens of this country and render them helpless in the face of goverment tyranny. The fact that it has been subverted by folks that believe that the answer to everything is simply handing over our rights and responsibilities to a regulatory agency of some kind,or passing another stupid law ( your $110 per bullet tax for example) doesn't change that fact.

As far as registering rifling goes, the FBI already maintains a database of bullets recovered at crime scenes. And NY just scrapped a system that required every handgun sold here be fired and the spent case be sent to the State police along with the serial #. And since in NY ALL handguns are registered, that spent case was tied to the guns owner. After five years and untold millions of dollars spent implementing the system, the government here - one of the most restrictive states as far as gun laws go - admitted that the idea was worthless and a complete waste of money. Never solved a single crime. Maryland has a similar system still in place that is even older. Same dismal results.

Want to know what might actually help?

Fix the natiolal database so people who should be prohibited don't fall through the cracks. Provide the states the resources they need to actually provide the needed info to the database instead of leaving it as an unfunded mandate that they are supposed to comply with out of their own limited funds.

Actually prosecute straw purchsers and folks caught with illegal guns under the federal statutes which are much tougher than state laws. Hardly ever happens. Thousands of gun sales are denied every year because when the dealer calls the database the person attempting to buy the gun is identified as a felon. The sale is denied. But simply attempting to buy a gun if one is a convicted felon is a federal crime. Almost none of those cases are prosecuted - around a dozen a year or so.

Criminals do the things they do because they either don't think they will be caught, or because the consequenses of being caught don't make the crime not worthwhile. More laws on top of the ones that are already not being enforced won't accomplish anything.

The liberal political tune never changes. If the crap they're doing now isn't working they just want to do more of the same. Applies to almost everything, not just guns. It's insanity.

The liberal political tune never changes. If the crap they're doing now isn't working they just want to do more of the same. Applies to almost everything, not just guns. It's insanity.

mots,, thats what we need.
look back. look at changes,
see results
continue? no,, time to turn around, has been for a long time,why the masses dont all see is simply amazing to me

give rights to anchor babies ...

your honest american left had control of the whole thing for 2 years,,

didnt do nuts,,

Back to gun control -

More than a quarter of the firearms seized on the streets here by the Chicago Police Department over the past five years were bought just outside city limits in Cook County suburbs, according to an analysis by the University of Chicago Crime Lab. Others came from stores around Illinois and from other states, like Indiana, less than an hour’s drive away. Since 2008, more than 1,300 of the confiscated guns, the analysis showed, were bought from just one store, Chuck’s Gun Shop in Riverdale, Ill., within a few miles of Chicago’s city limits.

From - http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/us/strict-chicago-gun-laws-cant-stem-fatal-...

Apparently there are roads where people buy guns on the other end of the road and drive them into the gun controlled area.

Huh ... who'd have thunk that.

Now if you buy a gun, the gun should be tied to your name.
That way, when a gun is recovered @ a crime scene, you get you a$$ tossed in jail ... we will eliminate 1 trafficker @ a time ... then everyone will be more careful about selling them and get them off their name when they do.

Cool.
Srinath.

Paraquat wrote on 07/10/13 at 09:28:54:


NYC is down cos its a lot longer to drive to SC from NYC than to Indiana from chicago ...

No we need to ban nothing - those Idiots banning this and that are slappinga shiny new paint job on a bike with a seized motor.
Nationwide we put in full on criminal checks for everyone wanting to buy a gun. Then when we sell them the gun, we keep that serial number tied to the person's ID. We also keep rifling info. We also get all that from every law abiding citizen out there.
That way, if a crimnial gets a gun, we can arrest the fool that gave him the gun for trafficking. If it was stolen from your house - call the cops, report these guns as stolen, and you're free of that gun. Repeat that 2-3-4 times, and you get tossed in the slammer for being a trafficker.
You should also present a valid ID and ownership of the gun you're buying ammo for.

The founders had no concept of a database. This check in their mind was going to take 25 years per purchase. Not now, its 10 seconds ...
They also didn't know you can drive 400 miles to buy something ... there were no cars and no gas stations and when you got to 400 miles away, you had no idea what was there.

Cool.
Srinath.

Midnightrider wrote on 07/10/13 at 11:33:17:


NYC requires a bunch more, as does chicago, and some types of guns you cant even buy in those 2 ...Chicago - you cant buy a gun wihtout a concealed carry course and a permit and other BS.
I am tired of googling and pasting ... its easy to find.
Dont compare NC to SC, no one trafficks from SC to NC.
Compare NYC to SC. That's what the criminals are doing with the full guarantee of the second amendment.

Cool.
Srinath.

We drug our kids up with ridlin and let them play violent video games. They grow up and cant even check the oil in their cars. After being drugged up for so long a lot of them cant tell reality from the video games.


all parta da plan