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05/26/13 at 20:07:46
 
Gun Owner Gets Fined $1000 For Unregistered Firearm After Saving Child’s Life : Freedom Outpost
Where else but Washington D.C. could this story happen? Actually it could happen a lot of places in this country and that’s what is truly frightening. Back in January a boy was riding his bike when he was attacked by three Pit Bull Terriers. He was savagely maimed but a good samaritan likely saved his life by shooting and killing the first of three dogs. A police officer who heard the shot finished the job. But this man saved a child’s life and now he has been fined for doing so.

In January The Washington Post reported:

The bloody paw prints travel the length of a city block, from a Northwest Washington street corner where police said an 11-year-old was mauled by three pit bulls to the welcome mat at the dogs’ owner’s home.

Two days after the attack, in which police said all three dogs were fatally shot, the prints were a reminder of what happened at Eighth and Sheridan streets on Sunday afternoon. Police said a neighbor and an officer shot the pit bulls as they sank their teeth into the boy’s legs, arms, stomach and chest.

The boy underwent surgery and remains hospitalized, a family member said. One of the dogs managed to limp back to his house before he died, leaving the bloody trail up Eighth Street. The boy, the dog owner and the shooter live on the same block.

An uncle of the victim’s said the boy was riding a new Huffy dirt bike with orange rims he had gotten for Christmas. The uncle said his nephew emerged from an alley onto Sheridan Street, where he collided with the pit bulls.

D.C. police said the unleashed and unattended dogs attacked the boy before a neighbor who saw it went into his home, got his handgun and fired once, hitting one of the dogs.  A D.C. police officer on bicycle patrol heard the shots, and authorities said he shot and killed the other two pit bulls. It was unclear from a police report exactly how many shots the officer fired.

“The injuries are terrible,” the boy’s uncle said, adding that he saw all three dogs with their teeth clenched on the youth’s extremities when the neighbor and officer opened fire. “This boy is traumatized,” the man said. “He told me doesn’t want to go outside anymore. He’s too scared.”

He also said his nephew was struck in the left foot by a bullet; police said they had no record that either a shot fired by the officer or the neighbor struck the boy.

The Good Samaritan in the story is a man named Benjamin Srigley. So what does he get for saving this boy’s life? The Washington Times reports:

Authorities last week made an agreement not to prosecute a Northwest D.C. man who used his unregistered handgun to kill a pit bull in order to stop it from mauling a child in his neighborhood. As part of the agreement, Benjamin Srigley, 39, was required to pay a $1,000 fine but will not have criminal charges filed against him for the three unregistered firearms and the ammunition that investigators found in his possession, said Ted Gest, a spokesman for the office of the attorney general.

“We took it into account that he saved this boy’s life,” Mr. Gest said.

Possession of an unregistered firearm or ammunition in the District is punishable by up to a year in jail and a $1,000 fine, and prosecutors said Mr. Srigley could have faced up to seven criminal charges in the case.

“In our recent memory this is a unique charge because of the unusual circumstances of this case,” said Mr. Gest, whose office generally prosecutes low-level crime in the District.

They act like they did this man a favor. He doesn’t get jail time but still has to pay a $1000 fine. Is this justice?

And what is this “or ammunition” statement about? Do you have to register both your firearms and your bullets in The District of Columbia?

This is justice in Washington D.C.

If a Good Samaritan that saves a child’s life gets a $1000 fine, just imagine what those armed protestors might face on July 4th.

The Examiner had this take on the situation:

How nice of them. So . . . instead of jail time and a criminal record, Mr. Srigley will “only” be fined $1,000. Good thing it wasn’t an entire Little League team he’d saved–at $1,000 per kid’s life saved, a guy could go bankrupt pretty quickly. Speaking of pit bull attacks and gun laws, the loved ones of a woman in Los Angeles probably wish there had been a “gun criminal” like Mr. Srigley around when she was sentenced by the gun-haters to die in the jaws of vicious dogs.

Actually, and this probably has to be considered shocking generosity by D.C. standards, Mr. Srigley will even get his guns back (or at least the two that he did not use to save the boy’s life)–with the understanding that he will take them out of D.C., because he’s moving to Maryland (can’t help but wonder about Srigley’s choice of places to live, though).

By the way, the owner of the three pit bulls is now in his own legal hot water–facing three counts each (one for each dog) of possession of a dangerous dog, having an unleashed dog and having a dog without a collar. The maximum penalty for those nine counts is very likely less than what Mr. Srigley could have faced for his seven victimless “crimes,” had the prosecutors decided to aggressively make an example of him. That prosecutors are punishing the owner of the dogs seems the height of hypocrisy–by punishing the man who stopped the attack, they’ve already shown that they’re on the side of killer dogs, rather than the people who stop them.

Here’s the thing. A law that has to be broken in order to save the life of a child–to prevent him from being torn apart by vicious dogs–is very likely an evil law. And a “justice” system that punishes a man (even if “only” by fining him) for being a lifesaving hero–is institutionalized evil. Why, as a (theoretically) free citizen, does any American tolerate this?

Whatever happened to the spirit of justice in this country? In most towns and cities this man would have been made a hero but not everywhere.

In so many places, like D.C., people who make a difference are regarded as common criminals. The biggest victim is the boy who will carry emotional scars from that day for the rest of his life.

But thanks to Benjamin Srigley, at least he has a life in front of him
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Reply #1 - 05/27/13 at 08:39:00
 
“We took it into account that he saved this boy’s life,” Mr. Gest said.



What they need to take into account is the CONSTITUTION !

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Reply #2 - 05/27/13 at 11:51:17
 
I guess having to register a gun obviously violates the CONSTITUTION.

DC and NYC have a huge gun problem with guns trafficked from SC. Registering a gun will in effect allow the trafficking to be choked off while letting legit guns be sold and traded.
Yea yea I am aware of the conspiracy theories ... yea register guns then confiscate them yea yea yea.

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Reply #3 - 05/27/13 at 13:33:39
 
srinath wrote on 05/27/13 at 11:51:17:
I guess having to register a gun obviously violates the CONSTITUTION.

DC and NYC have a huge gun problem with guns trafficked from SC. Registering a gun will in effect allow the trafficking to be choked off while letting legit guns be sold and traded.
Yea yea I am aware of the conspiracy theories ... yea register guns then confiscate them yea yea yea.

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Registration does no such thing.

Black market guns are used in about 90% of gun crimes up here.
And that's guns brought over an international border.

You can't have pistols legally in the UK and yet gun crime with pistols is way up since the ban.

You get jail in Jamaica for owning even ammunition and yet gun crime is rampant.

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Reply #4 - 05/27/13 at 23:34:56
 
srinath wrote on 05/27/13 at 11:51:17:
Registering a gun will in effect allow the trafficking to be choked off while letting legit guns be sold and traded.


Really?? Then how do you explain the THREE unregistered guns the good Samaritan had?
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Reply #5 - 05/28/13 at 07:01:39
 
Dane Allen wrote on 05/27/13 at 23:34:56:
srinath wrote on 05/27/13 at 11:51:17:
Registering a gun will in effect allow the trafficking to be choked off while letting legit guns be sold and traded.


Really?? Then how do you explain the THREE unregistered guns the good Samaritan had?


That's why he is being fined. Now he would register them. That way criminals cant register and the unregistered guns will slowly be squeezed out in subsequent uses. I guess they wont be, cos the road called I 95 still works and it goes from SC where you can buy a gun if you are a mass murderer ... so while good samaritans are being harassed SC is handing em out to convicted felons ... its useless. But the problem is not DC or NYC, its SC.

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Reply #6 - 05/28/13 at 10:11:31
 
Actually, registration IS a restriction,,so yes, UN Constitutional.
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Reply #7 - 05/28/13 at 11:53:06
 
srinath wrote on 05/27/13 at 11:51:17:
I guess having to register a gun obviously violates the CONSTITUTION.

DC and NYC have a huge gun problem with guns trafficked from SC. Registering a gun will in effect allow the trafficking to be choked off while letting legit guns be sold and traded.
Yea yea I am aware of the conspiracy theories ... yea register guns then confiscate them yea yea yea.

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I am kinda curious. I bolded just one part of your statement. Just focusing on that one little statement -DC and NYC have a huge gun problem with guns


What does that mean. Cause I really don't understand. So in MS we have about 5 guns per person. But we don't have "a gun problem". If a billion guns were put in a room, with a trillion rounds of ammo thrown in to boot. What would be the problem? Would the guns spontaneously attack people.. or blow up.. rape .. pillage... oh wait... attack little boys on bikes?
I submit that no place in the USA ever had a "gun problem". They have a CRIME problem, but that's not a gun problem. I can guarantee.. if every murderer (regardless of tool used) were put to death... the crime problem would go down and the "gun problem" would be a non-issue.

What the story above proves (to me) is; that making criminals out of otherwise law abiding citizens by blaming the tool used in the crime instead of the criminal and his actions.. is a poor poor excuse for attempting to provide security to the populace.  If I have no fear of be being caught... if I have no fear of being punished.. if I have no fear of the punishment... the law is moot.
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Reply #8 - 05/28/13 at 11:59:58
 
The state has no power over the law abiding, therefore, the state MUST pass laws making action illegal in Order to Obtain the power to crush the citizen.
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That's because you have bolded the wrong part.

This part -

DC and NYC have a huge gun problem with guns trafficked from SC

Nearly all the guns in the hands of criminals in DC or NYC is bought legit from GA or SC or other states without any gun laws and trafficked to NYC or DC.

Gun registration can be used to stop and prosecute that trafficking, but it needs to be done nationwide.

SC and MS and other states dont per say have a gun problem, but they are richly contributing to the NYC and DC criminals ability to shoot a few rounds in a drive by, get rid of the gun, get the next gun and repeat.

Yea yea yea I've heard all the arguments about law abiding citizens and guns and what not ... however there is no way to keep it out of the hands of criminals unless you account for every gun out there. A guy may turn into a criminal, say he threatens or beats up someone ... you dont know he has guns. He may go to court, go to jail etc, and come back out in a few months and have the guns to commit a bigger assault. Gun registration is to keep guns out of the hands of criminals.

Your right to own a gun is predicated upon you not being a criminal ? right ? If that's not your point of view, never mind registration, you might as well hand out guns to any criminal who wants one. SC does.

Anyway if you think that being a convicted criminal should prevent a person from owning a gun - how do you stop the criminal who starts out gets arrested and upon release he has guns cos he had em from before ?

Guns all by themselves dont do squat. The problem is that they are in the hands of criminals. They commit crimes and get rid of the gun, and get the next gun ... Or they ciommit crimes, go to jail, come back and still have the guns they used to. That would be stopped by gun registration. Its like a breathalyser in your car for a DUI.

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What we need to do and it could be done very very easily, just need to get everyone involved - especially NRA and gun companies to agree to it and needs to be implemented nationwide - not just in NYC only and not in NC.

The gun companies should put the serial number and the rifling marks into a database. Then we just keep a record of all the sales etc etc to whom it ends up with. Then the old pre registration guns - we do a registration drive, we get the riflinf and serial number and the owner.

That way when a gun is used in a crime - from the bullets left @ the crime scene - we can locate the owner. Now what happens when the gun isn't registered - we have the marks, and the criminal knows that, so they will have to get rid of it. They would, and get the next gun only that they dont know the marks are already in the system. The un registered guns will keep getting tossed away, and in a few years we should be down to the "rarely used" gun that is likely sitting with a non criminal ... or is lost or disposed of.

There are plenty of guns out there, however criminals are constantly getting new guns and disposing off their old guns.

This should do nothing for the law abiding citizen. It will end up convicting all the criminals in short order.

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Reply #11 - 05/28/13 at 17:27:37
 
do you know how many guns are in america? it would not be easy or cheap to record all that info. who is supposed to pay for all this?

i will not register my guns ever. the government has no right to know what guns i have.
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45acp wrote on 05/28/13 at 17:27:37:
do you know how many guns are in america? it would not be easy or cheap to record all that info. who is supposed to pay for all this?

i will not register my guns ever. the government has no right to know what guns i have.


That is a common side effect of the paranoia fed by the NRA. In fact the NRA wants the criminals to have guns, so they can sell more guns to the public saying criminals always get guns.

In any case, there are a lot fewer guns in action that you think. Most of the guns we dont know about are in the bottom of the river or buried somewhere after a crime was committed. Anyway 10% or fewer of the guns are in the hands of criminals, and those are constantly getting turned - they dispose of it and get new ... stop that "flipping" and gun crime will plummet. 90%+ of guns do nothing, or do good. If we had all the data on them, like ownership, rifling marks and serial number, the other 10% or even less, closer to 1% likely, will soon enough get used in crime and end up getting disposed off, replaced by guns we know that info about.

Of course that will make gun crime less and less of a factor, and hence less paranoia ... and so no mo business for the NRA.

You know let me use this racing analogy. Suzuki, and all companies pay the few riders who race their products. They pay them several million a year.
Guess what ... the no talent and no brain a$$hat with a credit card  passing you on the left on 1 wheel is a wanna be who buys that myth that he's the next Valentino Rossi.

If we look @ the NRA that way, they are making sure criminals always get guns.

You and I are the suckers who have the $$$ to buy their product cos "criminals will always have guns".

We register every gun in the hands of a law abiding citizen along with the rifling pattern, and register every new gun ... few years we will have no criminals with guns. It would be like leaving you business card @ a crime scene.
Since the non criminal public will be armed ... they cant resort to knife crime ... its like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Of course it wont stop the crackpot on a rampage ... we're gonna need $100 cash only bullets for that.

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Reply #13 - 05/29/13 at 14:45:43
 
it would never work. and it wouldnt stop crime.
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Reply #14 - 05/30/13 at 06:26:15
 
Criminals are called 'criminals' for a reason: they do NOT follow any laws. More laws will not stop criminals. How well did Prohibition work or the War on Drugs? Both have not worked and have only cost tax payers money. A criminal will get what he/she wants no matter what laws are on the books.  More laws won't solve crime problems
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