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Reply #60 - 05/17/13 at 18:22:05
 
srinath wrote on 05/17/13 at 14:00:07:
If I am proved wrong I admit it

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/there-was-no-surge-in-irs...

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There were, he noted, actually fewer applications for tax-exempt status by groups seeking to be recognized as social-welfare organizations that year than the previous one, according to this IRS data. The real surge in applications did not come until 2012 -- the year the IRS stopped the practice of treating the Tea Party class of groups differently from others.


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A number of people have sought to explain the IRS targeting of Tea Party, patriot, and 9/12 group applications -- as well as those from other conservative groups -- for "specialist team" treatment (mainly delays and excessive and inappropriate questions) in 2010 by pointing to the Citizens United decision that year allowing for unlimited, undisclosed fundraising by such groups. That's the explanation IRS official Lois Lerner gave a week ago when she first revealed that the agency had improperly handled a slew of applications


A number of people...I think I know someone who fits that description Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #61 - 05/17/13 at 18:41:57
 
Dane Allen wrote on 05/17/13 at 17:10:22:
srinath wrote on 05/17/13 at 14:00:07:
OK Daney - you have proved nothing except your ability to hurl obscenities.


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The way I see it, Bush appointees squelched the TEA baggers.


Once...

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Obviously TEA baggers


Twice...

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TEA baggers have used the last bullet in their arsenal to kill Obamacare.


Third times the charm

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Much like the famous hookers of Elliot Spitzer.


Bonus stealth insult.

Nice crocodile tears, though.  Grin Grin Grin



No one is calling you a TEA bagger dane. What part of that do you not understand.
Really I dont care all the obscenities you like, all yours dane. It's just a reflection of how you were raised.

I know I also did that, I should be and am ashamed to have done so.

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Reply #62 - 05/17/13 at 18:51:26
 
Dane Allen wrote on 05/17/13 at 18:22:05:
srinath wrote on 05/17/13 at 14:00:07:
If I am proved wrong I admit it

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http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/05/there-was-no-surge-in-irs...

An exerpt:

Quote:
There were, he noted, actually fewer applications for tax-exempt status by groups seeking to be recognized as social-welfare organizations that year than the previous one, according to this IRS data. The real surge in applications did not come until 2012 -- the year the IRS stopped the practice of treating the Tea Party class of groups differently from others.


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A number of people have sought to explain the IRS targeting of Tea Party, patriot, and 9/12 group applications -- as well as those from other conservative groups -- for "specialist team" treatment (mainly delays and excessive and inappropriate questions) in 2010 by pointing to the Citizens United decision that year allowing for unlimited, undisclosed fundraising by such groups. That's the explanation IRS official Lois Lerner gave a week ago when she first revealed that the agency had improperly handled a slew of applications


A number of people...I think I know someone who fits that description Grin Grin Grin


I never said anything about 2010. I did say post citizens united though. You assumed it was 2010. I also said this was started in 2009.

One more of those republican appointees lying. Was that your point ... you could have knocked me over with a feather ... what a shock.

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Reply #63 - 05/17/13 at 19:01:57
 
And here is more twists on citizens united.

The U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United v. FEC  on Jan. 21, 2010, is having a profound effect on the laws governing corporate political activity in nearly half the states. The court ruled that the federal government may not prohibit direct corporate and union spending on advertising for candidates' elections. While the ruling does not directly affect state laws, there are 24 states that currently prohibit or restrict corporate and/or union spending on candidate elections. Many of these states are looking at repealing or re-writing these laws to avoid legal challenges under the new standard set by Citizens United.  Furthermore, it is likely that states will choose not to enforce these laws, which has the potential to radically change the political landscape as we head into the 2010 elections. It is important to note that the Citizens United decision does not strike down bans on corporate contributions to candidates, which currently exist in 23 states. Only the ban on direct corporate and union spending on campaign advertising is addressed by this decision.

There is 10 pages of it on the 23 states that individually had to change their laws to not contradict CU. I dont want to post it here its a big table of sorts.

Its sorta like this.
Alabama
     

Corporations cannot fund ads directly under their own name, but must pay for them thru a PAC; corporations cannot contribute to a PAC (NOTE: this opinion applied specifically to spending on ads for/against referenda; not entirely clear that it applies to ads for/against candidates too)

(AG Opinion 82-088; conversation with SOS staff on 1/25/10) (§10-2A-70 and 10-2A-70.1)
     

None.

So CU went into effect at an un even dates across the country.

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Reply #64 - 05/18/13 at 06:04:21
 
The Internal Revenue Service's watchdog told top Treasury officials around June 2012 he was investigating allegations the tax agency had targeted conservative groups, for the first time indicating that Obama administration officials were aware of the explosive matter in the midst of the president's re-election campaign.

uh-oh......  this is getting closer and closer to Hopey......
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Reply #65 - 05/18/13 at 12:34:00
 
...it's their job to targer fraud.
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Reply #66 - 05/18/13 at 20:22:22
 
it's their job to targer fraud.

answer this question: is it part of fraud investigation to release personal and confidential information to that group's political enemy? yes or no
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Reply #67 - 05/19/13 at 08:40:41
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/18/13 at 20:22:22:
it's their job to targer fraud.

answer this question: is it part of fraud investigation to release personal and confidential information to that group's political enemy? yes or no



501c4 is a social welfare organization. Its not supposed to have enemies. I am the enemy of my neighborhood soup kitchen and all their donors. I want the list of restaurants and stores that give their food to the soup kitchen so I can go an picket them or throw rocks @ them. D-uh ...

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Reply #68 - 05/19/13 at 09:26:15
 
Obamas brother got His approved AND they made it retroactive so he wouldnt go to jail, cuz he had been collecting $$$ for 2 years as a non profit, even tho he wasnt..
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Reply #69 - 05/19/13 at 15:26:48
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 05/19/13 at 09:26:15:
Obamas brother got His approved AND they made it retroactive so he wouldnt go to jail, cuz he had been collecting $$$ for 2 years as a non profit, even tho he wasnt..



Whaaaat ? I thought he was kenya's crackhead ... or Obama has a another brother ?

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Reply #70 - 05/20/13 at 05:50:08
 
answer this question: is it part of fraud investigation to release personal and confidential information to that group's political enemy? yes or no

why won't any of you liberals answer this question?
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Reply #71 - 05/20/13 at 16:58:27
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/20/13 at 05:50:08:
answer this question: is it part of fraud investigation to release personal and confidential information to that group's political enemy? yes or no

why won't any of you liberals answer this question?



What garbage question - when was it proved that the donor list to that 501c4 was released to any "enemy" ...

You do know that a 501c4 - a social welfare organisation wont have any enemies right ?

Ergo - your question is lassoed upon its own feet.
501c4 has no enemies.
Donor list released to enemies = its not 501c4.
If it has enemies - its a 527, not a 501c4.

Dude you are shooting @ a soup kitchen's donor store and restaurant.

I'll put it in terms of the savage.
Why wont you savage fools not answer the question - How much fuel pressure I should set the fuel pump to run at and at what radiator pressure should my radiator cap open.

Why wont you answer the question ... yea ...

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Reply #72 - 05/20/13 at 19:52:52
 
srinath wrote on 05/20/13 at 16:58:27:
WebsterMark wrote on 05/20/13 at 05:50:08:
answer this question: is it part of fraud investigation to release personal and confidential information to that group's political enemy? yes or no

why won't any of you liberals answer this question?



What garbage question - when was it proved that the donor list to that 501c4 was released to any "enemy" ...

You do know that a 501c4 - a social welfare organisation wont have any enemies right ?

Ergo - your question is lassoed upon its own feet.
501c4 has no enemies.
Donor list released to enemies = its not 501c4.
If it has enemies - its a 527, not a 501c4.

Dude you are shooting @ a soup kitchen's donor store and restaurant.

I'll put it in terms of the savage.
Why wont you savage fools not answer the question - How much fuel pressure I should set the fuel pump to run at and at what radiator pressure should my radiator cap open.

Why wont you answer the question ... yea ...

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Well, apparantly they do have enemies because the administrion somehow coordinated attacks against them so, naturally, no they have no enemies but reality has proven that they do.
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Reply #73 - 05/20/13 at 19:54:22
 
What garbage question

figured  you'd dodge it; coward.
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Reply #74 - 05/21/13 at 10:33:31
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/20/13 at 19:54:22:
What garbage question

figured  you'd dodge it; coward.


Evade, dodge, deflect. That's the liberal playbook.
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