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Reply #30 - 05/03/13 at 20:36:35
 
Being charged with a felony can ruin his life forever. That and screwing up his education. He was caught trying to correct the situation. A gun safety class and 20 hrs of community service and he comes out with a clean record. No one deserves a felony for being forgetful. A felony is serious business , something that belongs on a career criminals record, not a kid that made a mistake. My son was charged with a felony one time by a stupid a$$ cop and all he was doing was defending himself. I hired a lawyer and paid big money to get him out with a clean record. I found out how it can totally ruin one's life.
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Reply #31 - 05/04/13 at 08:53:13
 
Probably should have gone to school administration first, vice his mother.
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Reply #32 - 05/04/13 at 19:18:37
 
Paraquat wrote on 05/03/13 at 11:06:44:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/02/liberty-university-offers-scholars...

It's all said and done now. Liberty College stepped up.
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Reply #33 - 05/04/13 at 19:40:18
 
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Reply #34 - 05/05/13 at 05:32:02
 
Zero tolerance policies were put in place by cowardly administrators too afraid  (or too incompetent) to get to the bottom of an issue and make JUDGEMENTS against the people involved. They are afraid of not suspending a skeet shooter, but then finding a gun in the car of a gang-banger and being put in the position of having to act like the adults they are supposed to be.
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Reply #35 - 05/05/13 at 09:55:15
 
Paraquat wrote on 05/02/13 at 06:16:20:
http://townhall.com/columnists/toddstarnes/2013/05/01/town-rallies-around-eag...

Cliff notes:
Eagle Scout left a shot gun in his vehicle by accident.
Called his mother to come pick it up.
Was overheard and some jagoff called the police.

Where I stand:
He's an Eagle Scout, sounds like is a good character, and obviously meant no harm to anyone. He tried to remedy the situation as best he could and when confronted he responded with total honesty...
...but zero tolerance means zero tolerance. Not zero tolerance unless it's an accident or unless you're a boy scout.
I'm conflicted on this story.


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Why are you conflicted? The Zero Tolerance policy is stupid, should never have been enacted. Each case has its own merits. The kid should get a pass.
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Reply #36 - 05/05/13 at 10:53:11
 
WebsterMark wrote on 05/05/13 at 05:32:02:
Zero tolerance policies were put in place by cowardly administrators too afraid  (or too incompetent) to get to the bottom of an issue and make JUDGEMENTS against the people involved. They are afraid of not suspending a skeet shooter, but then finding a gun in the car of a gang-banger and being put in the position of having to act like the adults they are supposed to be.


Correct and a republican communist Idea -

Here is Wiki -

The term "Zero Tolerance" appeared for the first time in a report in 1994.[6][7] The idea behind this expression can be traced back to the Safe and Clean Neighborhoods Act, approved in New Jersey in 1973,[8][9] of which inherits the same underlying assumptions.[8][10][11] The ideas behind the 1973 New Jersey policy were later popularized in 1982, when a popular magazine published the broken windows theory of crime.

In 1982, conservatives James Q. Wilson and George L. Kelling formulated their theory in the article Broken Windows,[9] published in The Atlantic Monthly, a U.S. cultural magazine.

The title of the article comes from the following example:

   Consider a building with a few broken windows. If the windows are not repaired, the tendency is for vandals to break a few more windows. Eventually, they may even break into the building, and if it's unoccupied, perhaps become squatters or light fires inside. Or consider a sidewalk. Some litter accumulates. Soon, more litter accumulates. Eventually, people even start leaving bags of trash from take-out restaurants.

According to scholars, zero tolerance is the concept of giving carte blanche to the police for the inflexible repression of minor offenses, homeless people and the disorders associated with them.[10][11][12] A well known criticism to this approach is that it redefines social problems in terms of security,[13] it considers the poor as criminals, and it reduces crimes to only "street crimes", those committed by lower social classes, excluding white-collar crimes.[14]

On the historical examples of the application of zero tolerance kind of policies, nearly all the scientific studies conclude that it didn't play a leading role in the reduction of crimes, a role which is instead claimed by its advocates. On the other hand, large majorities of people who living in communities in which zero tolerance policing has been followed believe that in fact has played a key, leading role in reducing crime in their communities.[14] It has been alleged that in New York City, the decline of crimes rate started well before Rudy Giuliani came to power, in 1993, and none of the decreasing processes had particular inflection under him.[14][15] and that in the same period of time, the decrease in crime was the same in the other major US cities, even those with an opposite security policy. But the experience of the vast majority of New Yorkers led them to precisely the opposite conclusion and allowed a Republican to win, and hold, the Mayor's office for the first time in decades in large part because of the perception that zero tolerance policing was key to the improving crime situation in New York City. On the other hand, some argue that in the years 1984-7 New York already experienced a policy similar to Giuliani's one, but it faced a crime increase instead.[14]

With Rudy Guiliani @ the center of it.

There is more - read it for yourself - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_tolerance

There is a 100 arms of this ... drunk driving, harassment and bullying etc etc etc ...

You cant take credit for those and wash your hands off the blame when it backfires in your opinion. Seriously I am surprised there was some good that came off it.

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