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Reply #15 - 05/03/13 at 06:45:08

Dane Allen wrote on 05/02/13 at 19:56:00:

srinath wrote on 05/02/13 at 14:01:13:

Paraquat wrote on 05/02/13 at 09:13:53:

Sri - you've got to be kidding me.
You're going to dismiss another article because of the source? Google your own darn article then.
What part did he embellish? Being an Eagle Scout? Attending church? Being in high school? Having a family? Existing??

Although it pains me I agree with Bill on this. The policy is zero tolerance. If one can skate by it will set a precedent.

That all being said 12 years ago I carried a Leatherman with me to high school. The times are changing, however.

--Steve

Its a opinion fluff piece from a right wing blog ... and the commenters were all surprise surprise ... right wingers ...

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Yes on precedent, yes on zero tolerance ... the rule - lets try when you get pulled over going 50 in a 35 see if you can talk yourself out of the ticket saying you didn't know it was 35 there ... or better yet see if you can call your mom to come there and remove something ...

I love the apples to oranges comparisons.... Grin

And why is it not apples to apples ... Ignorance of the rule doesn't give you an excuse no matter what you're ignorant of ...

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Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school
Reply #16 - 05/03/13 at 08:59:11

srinath wrote on 05/03/13 at 06:45:08:

Dane Allen wrote on 05/02/13 at 19:56:00:

I love the apples to oranges comparisons.... Grin

And why is it not apples to apples ... Ignorance of the rule doesn't give you an excuse no matter what you're ignorant of ...

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Oh, the irony!!!

Not completing an inventory of the contents of your car is not the same as speeding. Driving is a priviledge and gun ownership is a right. The rule listed above specifically states "knowingly and willingly." I didn't make this up, only stating the facts. As explained in other posts, you should compare like for like.

Ignorance.... Grin

Get a dictionary!!!

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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school Reply #17 - 05/03/13 at 09:05:53 I must say, Dane... "knowingly and willingly" kind of shook me. That moment of realization. If you're looking at the 100% legal definition the Eagle Scout should be free and clear. --Steve
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Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school
Reply #18 - 05/03/13 at 09:32:04

Dane Allen wrote on 05/03/13 at 08:59:11:

srinath wrote on 05/03/13 at 06:45:08:

Dane Allen wrote on 05/02/13 at 19:56:00:

I love the apples to oranges comparisons.... Grin

And why is it not apples to apples ... Ignorance of the rule doesn't give you an excuse no matter what you're ignorant of ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Oh, the irony!!!

Not completing an inventory of the contents of your car is not the same as speeding. Driving is a priviledge and gun ownership is a right. The rule listed above specifically states "knowingly and willingly." I didn't make this up, only stating the facts. As explained in other posts, you should compare like for like.

Ignorance.... Grin

Get a dictionary!!!

Oh yea then everyone would claim they didn't know ... duh ...
That's why these things get kicked to a judge.
And of course he knew the gun was there - which was why he was calling mom to come and remove it ... right there your argument fails ...

Failure ... Grin

Get a dictionary!!!

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Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school
Reply #19 - 05/03/13 at 09:59:09

Paraquat wrote on 05/03/13 at 09:05:53:

I must say, Dane... "knowingly and willingly" kind of shook me. That moment of realization. If you're looking at the 100% legal definition the Eagle Scout should be free and clear.

--Steve

Yes, but we are not a nation of laws anymore but, rather, a nation of convenience, hysteria and corruption. The current system is designed to crush individuals and non-PC, non-Marxist approved identities like Christians and the family.

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Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school
Reply #20 - 05/03/13 at 10:04:06

srinath wrote on 05/03/13 at 09:32:04:

Dane Allen wrote on 05/03/13 at 08:59:11:

srinath wrote on 05/03/13 at 06:45:08:

Dane Allen wrote on 05/02/13 at 19:56:00:

I love the apples to oranges comparisons.... Grin

And why is it not apples to apples ... Ignorance of the rule doesn't give you an excuse no matter what you're ignorant of ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Oh, the irony!!!

Not completing an inventory of the contents of your car is not the same as speeding. Driving is a priviledge and gun ownership is a right. The rule listed above specifically states "knowingly and willingly." I didn't make this up, only stating the facts. As explained in other posts, you should compare like for like.

Ignorance.... Grin

Get a dictionary!!!

Oh yea then everyone would claim they didn't know ... duh ...
That's why these things get kicked to a judge.
And of course he knew the gun was there - which was why he was calling mom to come and remove it ... right there your argument fails ...

Failure ... Grin

Get a dictionary!!!

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Srinath.

It helps if you read the whole article and not just reconstruct certain parts to suit your world view. It actually states that he discovered the gun AFTER he got to school and was retrieving a school bookbag from the vehicle.

OUCH!!! It must hurt to be you!!! Grin

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Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school
Reply #21 - 05/03/13 at 10:27:41

Dane Allen wrote on 05/03/13 at 10:04:06:

srinath wrote on 05/03/13 at 09:32:04:

Dane Allen wrote on 05/03/13 at 08:59:11:

srinath wrote on 05/03/13 at 06:45:08:

Dane Allen wrote on 05/02/13 at 19:56:00:

I love the apples to oranges comparisons.... Grin

And why is it not apples to apples ... Ignorance of the rule doesn't give you an excuse no matter what you're ignorant of ...

Cool.
Srinath.

Oh, the irony!!!

Not completing an inventory of the contents of your car is not the same as speeding. Driving is a priviledge and gun ownership is a right. The rule listed above specifically states "knowingly and willingly." I didn't make this up, only stating the facts. As explained in other posts, you should compare like for like.

Ignorance.... Grin

Get a dictionary!!!

Oh yea then everyone would claim they didn't know ... duh ...
That's why these things get kicked to a judge.
And of course he knew the gun was there - which was why he was calling mom to come and remove it ... right there your argument fails ...

Failure ... Grin

Get a dictionary!!!

Cool.
Srinath.

It helps if you read the whole article and not just reconstruct certain parts to suit your world view. It actually states that he discovered the gun AFTER he got to school and was retrieving a school bookbag from the vehicle.

OUCH!!! It must hurt to be you!!! Grin

You are so full of sheite ...

This is a NC news story ... I heard about it ad nauseum ... and not from right wing nut blogs either.

He got the gun to school after using it the previous day ... as in he put the gun in there so he knew about it. No one broke in and put a gun ... so he knew ... in any case ...

Right wing nuts will say what they want ... which is why that was a fluff piece ... the news on it has been out for a while longer than you were able to read Todd Starnes blog. He put it there ... he knew it was there ... if he drove it to school that is willingly.

The rule is to catch the nut who brings a gun to school before he starts shooting. Duh ... that is the intent of the "gun free zone" ... if you're here with a gun you'll be arressted just for that and charged with a felony. Post columbine that is the reality we live with, and plenty of kids bring guns to school all the time.

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Paraquat Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2206	Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school Reply #22 - 05/03/13 at 11:06:44 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/02/liberty-university-offers-scholars... It's all said and done now. Liberty College stepped up. His sister is cute. --Steve
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Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school
Reply #23 - 05/03/13 at 11:19:39

Paraquat wrote on 05/03/13 at 11:06:44:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/02/liberty-university-offers-scholars...

It's all said and done now. Liberty College stepped up.
His sister is cute.

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Oh gee gun nut helping gun nuts ... if he have knocked up someone and he didn't own up and she had to get an abortion I wonder how much trouble he'd have been in ...

Ha ha ...

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Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school
Reply #24 - 05/03/13 at 12:00:05

What kind of responsible behavior is it,... to go skeet shooting, then come home and leave the weapon in the car?... presumably along with ammo?...
Then, diddle and twiddle all evening,... and go to bed,... with the weapon and shells still out there, all night?...
Finally, remembering it's in the car the next day at school...

When I return from shooting,... the weapons come into the house, immediately, get cleaned and wiped down, and put away...
... and I ain't no scout... but, I do treat weapons with the safety and respect they deserve...

This little scout should lose a few merit badges for that... Huh

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... and his sister really is a cutey... Wink

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Reply #25 - 05/03/13 at 12:29:57

You guys wanna lock up a model citizen for making a mistake and trying to correct it while multi offenders are running loose everywhere. I know, I have a nephew who has made a career of stealing, been shot in an armed robbery, beat up his mom (my sister) and stepfather, stole old coins from his father, destroyed public property numerous times and he's still running the streets. He's found out the government will pay him for making babies now so that's his new career. He's due back in court next week for beating up my sister and his stepfather with a 2x4. I told his stepfather he's welcome to borrow any firearm I have to protect his self but his stepfather is a good man and wont hurt him. My sister will drop the charges but this time I don't think his stepfather will. My whole family has been begging him to stand his ground. This kid is what jails and graveyards are made for.

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Reply #26 - 05/03/13 at 12:44:34

Midnightrider wrote on 05/03/13 at 12:29:57:

You guys wanna lock up a model citizen for making a mistake and trying to correct it while multi offenders are running loose everywhere. I know, I have a nephew who has made a career of stealing, been shot in an armed robbery, beat up his mom (my sister) and stepfather, stole old coins from his father, destroyed public property numerous times and he's still running the streets. He's found out the government will pay him for making babies now so that's his new career. He's due back in court next week for beating up my sister and his stepfather with a 2x4. I told his stepfather he's welcome to borrow any firearm I have to protect his self but his stepfather is a good man and wont hurt him. My sister will drop the charges but this time I don't think his stepfather will. My whole family has been begging him to stand his ground. This kid is what jails and graveyards are made for.

Dude you still here posting ... aren't you supposed to be on the road to race RC and my kid is looking for some nasty nascar style crash from my description (sorry I had to use the movie cars as an alanlogy - autism).

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Midnightrider Serious Thumper Offline Alliance Member Posts: 3244 Winston Salem, NC	Re: Eagle Scout expelled from school Reply #27 - 05/03/13 at 12:46:54 I'm charging batteries as we speak, the cars ready. I'll be leaving a little after 5. Hope to see ya there.
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Reply #28 - 05/03/13 at 12:49:43

Midnightrider wrote on 05/03/13 at 12:46:54:

I'm charging batteries as we speak, the cars ready. I'll be leaving a little after 5. Hope to see ya there.

I'll be there kiddo in tow ... I'll call you or you call me when you get close to there. I am going to leave 6:30-45. I need to know exact location.

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Reply #29 - 05/03/13 at 16:37:14

Midnight,.. I'm not saying he should be locked up... Grin

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I'm just saying leaving a weapon and ammo in a car, untended,.. is not exactly exemplary Eagle Scout behavior...

The "Model Citizen"... title, is pretty subjective... and is being used by the Right to promote their point of view...

If there's a merit badge for gun safety... he needs to get a refresher...

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