http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pqFyKh-rUI

Lewis & Clark carried one of these..

wow a co2 gun for self defense.. have fun with that.

a co2 gun is NOT "generally" lethal. Ok yes a shot to the eye socket maybe. But YOU will not make that shot. I participate in shooting sports... and I would probably miss under duress a single shot to the eye at 10 feet with a pistol.

other than shotguns, I generally dismiss a rifle of any kind for home defense. You simply cant wield it in most homes.. just too long. Your not getting 900 FPS with a co2 pistol. Barrel is too short.

Plus damage is a function of speed and mass, the .177 just does not have the mass to cause much damage. Deer hunting with a pellet rifle is against the law in this state, same with a .22. You just wound the animal, not kill it.   By the way.. I could not find a single 900 FPS co2 powered rifle. Tops was 760. However I did find this:
http://www.airgunwarehouseinc.com/py-343-742.html

has to be charged with a SCUBA tank!
thats a friggin far cry from "co2"...
you get 10 shots... then you have to recharge.  So much for self defense.

sri.. you hate guns.. I get that but... this is waaaaayy out there

I hadn't shot for several months, took one of the pop guns out Tuesday, 7 of 9 into a paper plate at 10 yards. Considering the pistol is a jam-o-matic from 1936 (CZ24 in 9mm short, that means .380), it is fair accuracy, maybe. Monday I shot at the same paper plate with my (heavily massaged Ruger Old Army) .45 cap and ball revolver, at 100 yards, shooting downhill. Could cover the shots with the paper plate, but they were all 3" low.

If you think you don't need practice, think again. Last summer I could put every round in the target with those same guns, at the same distance.

If they're shooting at you 100' away.

srinath wrote on 04/23/13 at 19:27:08:


Can always count on Srinath to throw in a joke!!

We need well trained vice cops and FBI to infiltrate these gangs, take names and let the National Guard take them out. The ones that survive I would post bill boards all over town of them with their bright orange suits on and tombstones of the dead ones advertising we have openings for new members. We cant predict who the next mass shooter or bomber will be but we can stop these gangs from gunning down people and controlling the streets. Attack them like the motorcycle gangs were attacked, you don't hear a lot out of them anymore. Street gangs are organized domestic terrorist and should be treated as such.

Midnightrider wrote on 05/01/13 at 15:37:22:



See motorcycle gangs were obvious ... well they rode motorcycles.

These fools are rats ... they will hide till its absolutely safe for them to drive by in their black tinted car and spray bullets.

Cool.
Srinath.

See motorcycle gangs were obvious ... well they rode motorcycles.

These fools are rats ... they will hide till its absolutely safe for them to drive by in their black tinted car and spray bullets.

Cool.
Srinath. [/quote]
That's why I said go undercover and infiltrate them. A good drug dealer on our side would be a great start. It wouldn't take long to find out who they are and where they hide. Create another gang and start taking over their territory and see what happens. I think the government wants to stay out of it because 99% of them are minorities. Our cities are becoming criminal havens. Us good ol country boys just shoot the low life SOB's. That's why we need our guns.