On 16 December, mpescatori wrote:
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When my son was 6 I had to wrestle off his cold fingers the CDROM to "Grand Theft Auto" and prove him, playing the game, what he was actually doing, was rehearsing and practicing to be a robber, hijacker and fiend. An assassin and cop-killer."
On 17 December, Retread wrote:
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We worship war, we [...] have an abundance of violent video games that mimick war, killing, decapitation, and all out apocalypse.. Children are trained killers, we all have access to weapons capable of killing in mass quanity."
On 17 December, Gyrobob wrote
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I thought it almost funny how pescatori made comments about mussolini, hitler, franco, and castro,... all of whom made gun control an immediate national law as soon as they took power. They knew full well they needed a disarmed citizenry in order to kill citizens whenever they needed to."
On 17 December, mpescatori wrote:
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Hitler, Mussolini et al did not outlaw guns to kill off thier kind, in fact, they didn't ban anything at all; for your inforation, Gyrobob, there were possibly more (hand)guns in fascist Italy than in liberal England at the time, and they did come in handy once the Resistance started in 1943."
On 17 December, Gyrobob wrote:
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Gun control" is not the answer. Hitler had gun control..."
On 17 December, Verslagen wrote:
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A bigger issue which needs to be addressed is the availability of weapons to a lunatic. I have to have a trigger lock or secured place for all weapons. Why weren't her weapons secured? Why are weapons in the homes of lunatics? They do background checks, who assesses the family or home in which the weapons will be stored?"
On 16 december, mpescatori wrote:
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Anywhere in Europe, if you have a mentally ill living inhouse, you CANNOT have guns. So much for so much."
On 18 December, Starlifter wrote:
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We now live the result of decades of underfunded social systems surrounded by under-educated, paranoid wingnuts convinced that they are far safer if everyone owns powerful semi-auto guns with 30 round clips."
On 16 December, mpescatori wrote:
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I'd love to ride the US coast-to-coast, riding solo. I'd absolutely, positively love it. It scares me to death to think that I can fall victing of a roadside shooting simply because I split lanes or stopped at the lights when turning right, or talked back at the angry white 300 lb. mama on a pickup when she flips me the one-fingered salute."
On 17 December, mpescatori wrote:
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Do you see gun racks in pickups in downtown Averageville?"
On 18 December, Starlifter wrote:
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We now live the result of decades of underfunded social systems surrounded by under-educated, paranoid wingnuts convinced that they are far safer if everyone owns powerful semi-auto guns with 30 round clips."
On 16 December, Webstermark wrote:
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I was in your Italian town of Bergamo (home of the Lord’s Supper) for 2 days and walked around everywhere. I never one time felt fear no matter where I went. Other than not finding a lot of people who spoke English [...] I had a great time. "
OK, these quotes are not intended to mean Europe is better than the USA nor that strict gun control lessens murders, wackos are wackos anywhere, regardless.
These quotes are intended to mean that there is an inherent public perception - by you all, not by me - that
the gun laws are much too permissive.
Personally speaking, a 30-round clip in an assault rifle for "domestic defense" is just as justified as a 500hp V8 engine in a soccer mom's family runabout.
Too much without any justification.
I stress my point, if you simply TEST the regulations which apply to motor vehicles to gun ownership and gun use, you'd have an extremely liberal situation BUT your local Sheriff would know exactly what is in everybody's house when rushing to a call.
One thing is rushing to a 911 call where there is no gun in the house; or maybe there is one handgun reasonably proportioned to domestic defense.
But when the Deputy hears the house stocks assault rifles and shotguns of all sorts and sizes... that homeowner is of a different kind altogether.
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Shoot first, them ask questions" once applied to the US Cavalry when hunting down "terrorist" Geronimo (who, from his own point of view, was simply fighting for his own Country).
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Shoot first, then ask questions" in home defense equates to charges of Murder One, and you'll need a hell of a good lawyer to get it downgraded to Manslaughter.
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Trespassers will be shot" cannot apply in a civilized country.
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Preemptiove defense" is called "vaccination" in medicine, but the Criminal Code of Laws has other names for it.
The the International Court in The Hague has sentenced, more than once, that Nations cannot appeal to "Preemptive Defense" for anything other than defense within their own national territory or airspace/national waters.
As for myself, I dream of riding around the world on my Savage (the BMW is much too heavy and looks much too "rich and expensive").
I have read many many books written by those who have done it, in all or in part, and have come to the conclusion the world WAS a much more peaceful place way back in the 1950-60s...
Actually, it was at its most peaceful in the 1920s...
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