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Why not carry concealed even if it's illegal?
12/28/12 at 04:48:13
 
I posted this question on my Facebook page but would like the input of the fine folks here as well.

I have a question. I am not being an instigator. I would truly like a good answer. If an adult believes he needs to carry a concealed weapon to protect himself or his family and it is not legal in his city/state, why doesn't he carry it anyway? I mean, it is a life or death decision. It is concealed. By the definition of the word, no one will know you have it. If you need it to defend your life, you use it. Would you rather be alive and going to court or be dead? I would be willing to bet many of the people who won't carry because it's the law are the same people who have intentionally broken many laws just because they wanted to, not because it was a life or death situation. Underage drinking. Smoking dope. Street racing. Speeding. Driving while intoxicated. Each of these things is illegal yet many people will do them for fun. If you are willing to break the law for fun, why not to save your life?
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Re: Why not carry concealed even if it's illegal?
Reply #1 - 12/28/12 at 05:22:58
 
Good question.I've done everything you listed.Depending where I'm at(in my car)I've had my gun within reach.But I've never illegally caried.Maybe laws are stiffer,get shot by a Barney Fife cop,got older and wiser.I can't honestly answert that.In a bar fight/whatever I can usually hold my own.If it's close(in the car)I usually have a knife,screwdriver,something laying around.If need be I would use that....I guess.
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Reply #2 - 12/28/12 at 06:06:08
 
I think it has something to do with how we perceive ourselves. If the decision is made to carry concealed without a permit then we are taking the step down to the level of the criminal instead of abiding by the law. All the he!! raising done with drugs, speeding and drinking is more social done with friends. Carring without a permit is more of a personal choice which a lot of people won't share with others.
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Reply #3 - 12/28/12 at 06:09:21
 
People do but they do not advertise.
I know there's been more than one instance where people have been assaulted (because it's a verb, not an adjective) and were carrying in an area they were not legally permitted to carry in.


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Reply #4 - 12/28/12 at 06:31:29
 
Got to agree with Paraquat, there is no way to tell how many are carring without a permit. It's a personal choice wether to carry or not and don't ask, don't tell, is the rule.
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Reply #5 - 12/28/12 at 09:48:46
 
This happened a LOT in Texas after Luby's but before the law was passed.  One DA stated that he would be strictly enforcing the carry laws and ignoring the "travelling" defence and was almost recalled from office.  This is one reason why I am not too worried about what the national government does.

Also, if you study history you know that what prompted the Texas war for independence was Mexican gun control.  Something to consider.
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Reply #6 - 12/28/12 at 21:08:04
 
I used to carry concealed when I worked nights. That was before there were concealed permits. If I had a flat tire or car trouble at 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning I didnt want to be at the mercy of whoever came along on the backwoods roads I drove to work.
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Reply #7 - 12/29/12 at 12:23:47
 
not illegal till you get caught
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Reply #8 - 12/29/12 at 12:32:11
 
thumperclone wrote on 12/29/12 at 12:23:47:
not illegal till you get caught

Rather judged by 12 than carried by 6.
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Reply #9 - 12/30/12 at 04:14:58
 
houstonbofh wrote on 12/29/12 at 12:32:11:
thumperclone wrote on 12/29/12 at 12:23:47:
not illegal till you get caught

Rather judged by 12 than carried by 6.


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Reply #10 - 12/30/12 at 18:42:09
 
My G'pa had a snubby 38. Went in his belt every nite as he closed the store up. When he put his $$$ in his bank bag & headed for his truck, he held the bag in his left hand, right hand ready to grab his gun. I guess every cop around knew he was packin, that was in 72,, Oklahoma, on a stretch of road between Tecumseh & Shawnee, pretty isolated & long before cell phones. He knew whose responsibility it was for him to get home safely. Americans have been slowly seperated from the land & growing food & canning & putting food back for times when it will be needed. Just as we have been slowly taken away from the idea of being self reliant in other aspects of life. If Johnny is picking on you, tell the teacher. Once upon a time, ya hit the punk in the face as hard as ya could as many times as ya could.. If someone is committing a crime, QUICK! Dial 911! America was a better place when people would come to the aid of a stranger by taking action directly against their attacker. Now, they make a call & Believe theyve "Done all they could do"..
I miss the America I loved so much.
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Reply #11 - 12/30/12 at 21:58:52
 
justin_o_guy2 wrote on 12/30/12 at 18:42:09:
My G'pa had a snubby 38. Went in his belt every nite as he closed the store up. When he put his $$$ in his bank bag & headed for his truck, he held the bag in his left hand, right hand ready to grab his gun. I guess every cop around knew he was packin, that was in 72,, Oklahoma, on a stretch of road between Tecumseh & Shawnee, pretty isolated & long before cell phones. He knew whose responsibility it was for him to get home safely. Americans have been slowly seperated from the land & growing food & canning & putting food back for times when it will be needed. Just as we have been slowly taken away from the idea of being self reliant in other aspects of life. If Johnny is picking on you, tell the teacher. Once upon a time, ya hit the punk in the face as hard as ya could as many times as ya could.. If someone is committing a crime, QUICK! Dial 911! America was a better place when people would come to the aid of a stranger by taking action directly against their attacker. Now, they make a call & Believe theyve "Done all they could do"..
I miss the America I loved so much.

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Reply #12 - 01/02/13 at 13:17:51
 
Carrying concealed works less effectively as a deterrent than carrying open IMHO. In NC you dont need a permit to carry open. Many states are that way.

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Reply #13 - 01/02/13 at 17:39:44
 
srinath wrote on 01/02/13 at 13:17:51:
Carrying concealed works less effectively as a deterrent than carrying open IMHO. In NC you dont need a permit to carry open. Many states are that way.

Actually it is proven to be the other way around.  Criminals do not know who is armed in Texas until there is reasonable cause for lethal force.  So the Texas law also protects those who do not carry.  Open carry laws only protect those armed at the time.
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Reply #14 - 01/02/13 at 19:51:04
 
houstonbofh wrote on 01/02/13 at 17:39:44:
srinath wrote on 01/02/13 at 13:17:51:
Carrying concealed works less effectively as a deterrent than carrying open IMHO. In NC you dont need a permit to carry open. Many states are that way.

Actually it is proven to be the other way around.  Criminals do not know who is armed in Texas until there is reasonable cause for lethal force.  So the Texas law also protects those who do not carry.  Open carry laws only protect those armed at the time.


I cant believe that ... How would the criminals know that those who aren't carrying a gun are not concealing it ? OK Fine they assume they are armed ... so there is a few people carrying open and the rest unknown, wont the criminals assume the rest are concealing anyway ... Your "proven" fact seems nothing more than a few people's assumptions and that gets repeated and becomes ... well an often repeated lie.
No one may know what is true, but I cant see how in say a crowd, there is a few with visible guns, and in a location where concealed carry is the norm, I cant see how the fact that there is open carry makes any difference ...

I am sorry, I call bogus on this, and dont show me some paper article as your proof.

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