The same old bonehead arguments - cars, bombs etc.
There is no denying the facts:
Yes people will always find lethal weapons even if they are illegal.
But countries with gun control/low gun ownership rates don't have regular occurrences of primary school children being massacred with a hand gun. They maybe have one a generation (eg. Norway), America has one a season.

Just a thought,.. but, what kind of gun shop recommends these weapons to a middle-aged kindergarten teacher, in a quiet middle-class neighborhood?...
If a home defense weapon were needed at all,.. I'd have steered her to a 38 snubby...

I wouldn't try to sell her a Hayabusa either...  ...

Maybe not illegal,.. but very irresponsible...

Serowbot wrote on 12/15/12 at 10:07:28:



   You don't "steer" anyone, it is what the gun owner is comfortable with, a 9mm is a easy to use weapon for a woman, trigger pull, and weight.. The only one responsible is HER, she should have secured her weapons from her crazy son... There we go BACK to the real cause, MENTAL HEALTH! Guns will always be there, stolen, borrowed, owned, and sold. Ban all guns? Good luck..

The only thing I can see that might slow these tragedys is gun dealers being trained to recognize mental illness, and having mental health professionals register the mentally ill, requiring background check on weapons to include that data base..

I'm with Retread.  We have to look at who does these massacres.  The guys who shot Gabby Giffords, the theater in Colorado, the Va. Tech shooter - all have one thing in common - so crazy that just looking at them gives you the willies.

Dangerously mentally ill people used to be identified, treated if possible, and if not possible, they were locked up in institutions.  Today, with our PC world and worrying about perhaps stepping on their "rights", they roam at will.

When family members are in denial that have have a bozo in their midst, they should be liable to the victims, just like the host of a party can be liable when he turns a drunk loose, leaving the party and someone is killed as the drunk drives home.

Privacy laws that are a joke protect these animals, and put the rest of us at risk.  When a school counselor gets wind of emails that are bizzare, he/she should immediately be able and required to call the cops.

I am not a "gun nut", although I own one.  Frankly, I haven't fired it in probably 10 years.  But making handguns illegal accomplishes as much as making cocaine and heroin illegal - if a carzy wants any illegal substance he can get it.

If you want to ban something that does twist people, figure out how to ban the horrible video games that the kids watch today - endless hours of killing, blood and gore.  Do you expect a kid to grow up watching this stuff, and then separate fiction from reality?  And lastly, again, where are the parents of these kids?  And don't give me the "single mom" sob story - maybe she shouldn't have been a single mom in the first place.  That's another whole issue.

Nothing will stop this reoccurring with regular horror except strong gun control. ie. less gun ownership. And yes it would be political suicide, so it won't happen.
So yes you guys are right - might as well set up the next condolescence thread and post the date for 3 months from now when this happens again again and the rest of the world stares in horror and then just shakes their head as the same lines are trotted out and the status quo returns.
I am 40 years old and I can only remember 2 of these incidents in the whole of Europe in my lifetime. Must be dozens in the states now.
What is the reason for this? More guns.
I'm not anti guns - I've fired one a couple of times and it was hell fun.
But I don't feel the need to have one at home and I'm glad none of my neighbours are legally allowed to either.

Oh yeah, 2nd amendment and all that...What? The Founders of our nation might be wrong about something? See slavery for the precedent.

I am not calling for a ban on guns, myself. I do believe in the words "well regulated.

I cant believe I'm saying this but its come to the point I would like to see every teacher carry concealed. They're the only ones who are in immediate position to protect their students. This says what our country has become but thats the way it is. We have armed Marshalls on our airliners, we need armed teachers in our schools. All the gun laws arent going to do any good. We need trained professionals on the scene to stop the violence immediately. Have the teachers train with local Law Enforcement, go through extensive phychological testing and training and pay them for what they're doing and deserve.. Our children are are most precious resource, no matter what it takes, what extremes we have to go to, we have to protect them and insure they get the education they deserve.