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Reply #45 - 09/18/12 at 11:11:57
 
What did Israel ever do for the USA?
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Reply #46 - 09/18/12 at 11:13:23
 
Why did Hitler hate the Jews?
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Reply #47 - 09/18/12 at 12:03:41
 
bill67 wrote on 09/18/12 at 11:13:23:
Why did Hitler hate the Jews?



Wasn't Hitler rumoured to be part jewish.

Did he not claim jews were evading taxes ?

BTW Hitler is not held in as much disdain in India, obviously we were a colony of the british, and we were trying to get our independence, so there were many selectively timed up risings to disrupt the british in India as WW2 got underway.

Hitler adopted the swasthika which is a religious and sacred symbol in India, long before hitler co opted it. Tom hanks talks about it in the da vinci code.

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Reply #48 - 09/18/12 at 12:14:05
 
Lots of people claim that the swastika was theirs before the Nazi party adopted it, including at least one tribe of American Indians.
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Reply #49 - 09/18/12 at 12:23:14
 
Bill -

Like most of his ilk, Hitler preyed on the fears and biases of the German people in a terrible time of turmoil.  If you've read much history, you know that the post WW I depression in Germany was far worse than our Great Depression in the U.S.  People were literally eating out of garbage cans.
When you also study that era in German history, you learn that in the 1920s there was a period of hyper inflation going on in Germany, and by the end of that decade, it literally took a wheel barrow full of German currency to buy a bag of groceries.  And the Treaty of Versailles had put tremendous pressure on the German gov't to pay the reparations called for in that treaty.

So, Hitler and his National Socialism Party arrived on the scene.  Part of dealing with any set of catastrophic economic conditions involves finding somebody to blame for them, like you love to blame GWB for all of the ills that you perceive are besetting the U.S. right now.

Hitler chose to blame the Jewish business interests - the banks and other financial institutions that he convinced the German voters were responsible for all that ailed them.  Since they were inherently "different", different religion, kept mostly to themselves, socialized mostly with other Jews, and the orthodox Jews wore distinctive clothing, they were an easy target.

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Reply #50 - 09/18/12 at 13:14:21
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 09/18/12 at 12:23:14:
Bill -

So, Hitler and his National Socialism Party arrived on the scene.  Part of dealing with any set of catastrophic economic conditions involves finding somebody to blame for them, like you love to blame GWB for all of the ills that you perceive are besetting the U.S. right now.

inherently "different",
an easy target.



Also sounds like the Right blaming Obama to me.

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Reply #51 - 09/18/12 at 13:20:18
 
Could be, but in our political system, each party has always blamed the other.
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Reply #52 - 09/18/12 at 15:09:39
 
Bill, leave the Third Reich out of it until you've read (and understand) the pamphlet Nazi-Soci. The entire philosophy of the party (as seen by propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels) is explained in everyday terms.

You'd be surprised at the amount of what was felt in Germany then is felt/echoed in the USA now.

Good luck finding it, it's illegal to sell in the USA. You may need to run up to Canada to snag a copy. And no, you can't just borrow my copy.
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What?  How is any text illegal to sell in the US?
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Reply #54 - 09/19/12 at 05:04:07
 
Try finding an unsanitized copy of any "controversial" tome from any mainline retail source. Awful lot of banned books in this country...
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Reply #55 - 09/19/12 at 06:49:05
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 09/17/12 at 15:03:56:
Even as a diehard Republican, I was against the invasion of Iraq, feeling as I did that Saddam was a stabilzing influence who kept his animals in check.  We invaded the wrong place - the target should have been Iran.



And whenever a republican does this - like back pedal from Bushies actions it really makes the republicans less and less credible. Its like we were wrong then, or we attacked the wrong country due to a typo in the memo, but we'll be all good now.

Really ... uhhhh OK.
In contrast, the past presidents of the democratic variety are still in the party fray and still very much the back bone. Clinton, Carter, I actually didn't think carter was such a bad president, but carter after he left office has been absolutely great as an ambassador for the US.

I guess I'd call it the side effects of tramling on the constitution and invading countries under lies and deceit, and inflating the biggest bubble in the history of the world to divert attention away from the stench of failure.

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Reply #56 - 09/19/12 at 07:25:32
 
Bill, they take our money and lots of it.... they are the number 1 country for foreign aid then give us orders on how to run the world or who to attack next!

Just think for a very short time what the world would be like without that litter box in the mideast?  About 95% of the human population would rejoice.  

Remember before 1948 when we got along with all the arab countries....what changed all of that one word Israel. Fact!

What country has the LARGEST lobby group in washington....israel.

What country is romney crawling like a cockroach to kiss its ass and promiss another war for.....israel

Ever notice how most of the world believes we are their lapdogs....... Angry Angry
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Reply #57 - 09/19/12 at 10:32:59
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 09/18/12 at 13:20:18:
Could be, but in our political system, each party has always blamed the other.


Yes and very fairly so if I might add ... In fact clinton started the housing bubble with the 98 capital gains law for profits from sales of a house.
Clinton also started the inflow of mexicans by killing their farm industry via nafta.
Clinton also bombed the hell out of an empty tent in afghanisthan ... yea that'll show em.
Clinton also nailed a few fat chicks needing that whole Oval office needing to be cleaned with industrial strength bleach ...

However Wars under false pretenses, expansion of food stamp programs etc are all Bushies. No Clinton, no Carter and definetly no Obama in that. That is most of the govt expenditure increase the right is so wound up about.

Its this attitude that characterises that 47% remark. Its the lets expand the benifit programs, then after we leave office is the democrats take over which they look like doing, we can nail them for increasing expenses.

We may drown in debt that Obama initiated when interest rates were -ve 3% and when the interest starts to rise the govt may be too spineless (aka full of rich guys who wont want to see their stash of cash get devalued) to print $ and hence we may drown in payments ... Maybe that can in some long winded fashion be pinned on Obama, till then I'd say STFU and take the Blame piled on the Bushies. Yea yea you hate Obamacare, except you were all for it when it was called Romney care ... and no you cant distance yourself cos you're not in MA, back to the credibity question if that's the case.

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