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Reply #345 - 09/06/17 at 23:21:46

batman wrote on 09/06/17 at 19:14:57:

royal purple is car oil ,it doesn't contain any phosphorus ,but does contain friction modifiers . doesn't sound like anything to be using in a Savage.

All samples were taken from brand new, thoroughly shaken bottles of oil. And all tests were performed at ALS Tribology, formerly Staveley Labs, in Sparks, Nevada.

Royal Purple 10W30 HPS (High Performance Street)
Silicon = 7 ppm (anti-foaming agent in new oil, but in used oil, certain gasket materials and dirt can also add to this number)
Boron = <5 ppm (detergent/dispersant)
Magnesium = 46 ppm (detergent/dispersant)
Calcium = 3626 ppm (detergent/dispersant)
Barium = <1 ppm (detergent/dispersant)
Total detergent/dispersant = 3676 ppm
Zinc = 1774 ppm (anti-wear)
Phos = 1347 ppm (anti-wear)
Moly = 189 ppm (anti-wear)
Total anti-wear = 3310 ppm
Potassium = 11 ppm (anti-freeze inhibitor)
Sodium = 2 ppm (anti-freeze inhibitor)
TBN = 10.2 (Total Base Number is an acid neutralizer to prevent corrosion. Most gasoline engine motor oils start with TBN around 8 or 9. And in use, this becomes depleted over time as mileage accumulates)
Viscosity (cSt at 100*C) = 11.3 (cSt range for SAE 30 is 9.3 to 12.4) And cSt (centistokes) in general terms, represents an oil’s thickness.

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Gary_in_NJ Serious Thumper Offline LS650 Cafe Racer Posts: 2633 Amongst the Twisty Roads	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #346 - 09/07/17 at 05:09:10 Noob goes right for the oil war....
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #347 - 09/07/17 at 06:06:11 Your money, and bike, Just seems kinda unreasonable to not use what is cheap, available, and proven. If you can get 150,000 miles on brand X, do rings and valves and keep rolling, it just hits me odd..
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Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS
Reply #348 - 09/07/17 at 09:53:57

Gary_in_NJ wrote on 09/07/17 at 05:09:10:

Noob goes right for the oil war....

Hehe you're right. What I posted is doubtfully new news to anyone here that has been running savage's for years. Belay my last

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 09/07/17 at 06:06:11:

Your money, and bike,
Just seems kinda unreasonable to not use what is cheap, available, and proven.
If you can get 150,000 miles on brand X, do rings and valves and keep rolling, it just hits me odd..

This is true, if you veteran savage owners trust it then it's obviously for good reason.

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batman Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 3806 osceola new york Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #349 - 09/08/17 at 16:07:20 Dml ,your oil lists Moly 189ppm ,which is known to cause slippage in wet clutches .
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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1420 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #350 - 09/08/17 at 21:20:52 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz !
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5120 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #351 - 09/09/17 at 21:17:22 Someone say OIL WAR !!!! Toga Toga Toga We must have a new know it all member
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5120 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #352 - 09/09/17 at 21:22:30 I forgot do we horse whip first or tar & feather first ?
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zipidachimp Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 1420 surrey, b.c. Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #353 - 09/09/17 at 21:54:02 24 pages of Rotella and some still don't get it! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5120 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #354 - 09/10/17 at 09:26:56 With age comes wisdom ! I think we all had to learn that Zipi I remember now it's tar & feathers first !
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #355 - 09/10/17 at 23:16:08 I feel obligated to tell them. Then, they're on their own.
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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5120 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #356 - 09/11/17 at 21:57:52 Really , let them read 24 pages first and then if they can't figure it out on their own then you can splain it ! You gettin soft & compassionate in you OLD AGE ! I'm startin to worry bout you ? Remember this could be oil war number WHAT ? This is Rev. JOG , same one that ate 2 newbies a day for breakfast ?
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Reply #357 - 09/12/17 at 09:15:34

As FYI, in pouring over the years of discussion on this, it appears it can be difficult for some to find Rotella T4 except online. As it is recommended as a lube for diesel engines, often boat dealers will stock it as it was specified for Yanmar diesels for years. Though as a "boat" thing they always extract a little extra at the register.

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Reply #358 - 09/12/17 at 09:32:06

SoC wrote on 09/12/17 at 09:15:34:

As FYI, in pouring over the years of discussion on this, it appears it can be difficult for some to find Rotella T4 except online.

I can't see why anyone in the US would have trouble finding it - it is in the automotive department of almost every Big Box store, auto parts store, truck stop and even comes in 2, 5 and 55 gallon containers at Tractor Supply. Maybe those folks who live in the Mountain Time Zone where it is 50 miles to the grocery store.......or in downtown Manhattan don't have the same type of shopping environment that I do - but I can likely find Rotella at every block where the retail stores are located.

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Ruttly Serious Thumper Offline Thumpers Rule Posts: 5120 Manteca , CA Gender:	Re: RECOMMENDED OILS AND BOOSTERS Reply #359 - 09/12/17 at 12:13:31 Yeah what Dave said. Got a Walmart , Got Rotella !
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