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tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke????
04/20/12 at 16:24:37

first of all to find tdc you align the notches on the rotor cover and the rotor. i see the notch on the cover but no notch inside????

and whats the best way to know im tdc on the compression stroke. im pretty sure i got the piston to tdc with the cam lopes facing down and when i went to fire it up, it would fire like every other stroke it seemed like, i think i had it tdc on the exhaust stroke. ill will try again tomorrow when my battery is charged.

some good tips would be awesome. all i wanna do is ride this savage and its just problem after problem, worst investment ever lol. just sayn :'(

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #1 - 04/20/12 at 16:26:07 Look at the valves. When theyre all 4 closed & the notches line up.. TDC compression,,
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Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke????
Reply #2 - 04/20/12 at 16:31:04

ok well then cool, thats how it was. then it must be a carb problem, flooding i think. i was getting smoke (gasoline mist) shooting out of my carb when i cranked it over. checked the float needle valve, it moved freely and i adjusted it to where it would get alil less fuel. still no start up, it would just catch fire every couple of stroke.

any ideas?

o yea and where are the notches for finding tdc? i toke the big flathead screw off and saw a notch on the cover, but no other notch???

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #3 - 04/20/12 at 16:33:52 this is basic stuff... http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1278347767
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28637 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #4 - 04/20/12 at 16:38:48 chad levert wrote on 04/20/12 at 16:31:04: ...then it must be a carb problem, flooding i think. i was getting smoke (gasoline mist) shooting out of my carb when i cranked it over. Do this simple test... Test your Petcock,.. don't just turn it to Prime..
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chad levert Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 62 louisiana Gender:	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #5 - 04/20/12 at 16:49:23 then its gotta be my petcock cause when i first got the bike and drained the oil it was almost straight gas in the case! and when i pull the line off on the front of the carb it has constant gas dripping out. so what exactly is the diaphram?
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28637 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #6 - 04/20/12 at 16:53:41 chad levert wrote on 04/20/12 at 16:49:23: so what exactly is the diaphram? It's the rubber valve inside the stock vacuum petcock that gets engine vacuum pulled against it to open fuel flow to the carb.. Get a Raptor... best $30 bucks you'll ever spend on this bike...
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Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke????
Reply #7 - 04/20/12 at 17:10:55

chad levert wrote on 04/20/12 at 16:49:23:

then its gotta be my petcock cause when i first got the bike and drained the oil it was almost straight gas in the case! and when i pull the line off on the front of the carb it has constant gas dripping out.

so what exactly is the diaphram?

Thats the clue,, float isnt closing & petcork isnt stopping the gas.

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chad levert Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 62 louisiana Gender:	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #8 - 04/22/12 at 10:13:53 i dont know what to do. tested my petcock its works fine, diaphram is doing its job. my jets are clean and needle valve is functioning. im still getting gasoline mist shooting out of my carb. ?
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #9 - 04/22/12 at 10:20:31 Have you checked the valves out? A too tight intake maybe? It starts okay?
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chad levert Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 62 louisiana Gender:	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #10 - 04/22/12 at 10:27:30 well before i changed my gaskets the bike ran fine, started fine so i wouldnt think my valve clearences would need to be adjusted... idk maybe but no i didnt measure but they seemed good. what is it btw like .004?
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Reply #11 - 04/22/12 at 10:31:09

Only two ways for gas to enter the carb... past the float needle, or down that vacuum tube...
If it ain't one, it's the other... If you didn't find it, you missed something, check again...

Where exactly is the "mist' coming from?... from what part of the carb?, shooting what direction?...

Nothing to do with engine or valves... unless your engine is running backwards...(PS... that's a joke, it ain't goin' backwards)...

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chad levert Junior Member Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 62 louisiana Gender:	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #12 - 04/22/12 at 10:34:02 the gas mist is being shot towards the rear of the bike out of the back where the airfilter boot would hook up
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28637 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke???? Reply #13 - 04/22/12 at 10:38:39 So, this is without the boot on?... Try connecting the boot and filter... (see if the filter and airbox loads up).. If it does,... you are back to the vac line and float needle...
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Re: tdc compression stroke, exhaust stroke????
Reply #14 - 04/22/12 at 10:48:12

ok i will try it, but before the bike ran with no boot or filter just fine. so i guess it has to be the vacuum line or float valve. i tweaked the float to where it would close with less gas and its still flooding like crazy. so its gotta be the vac line... the vac hose is in good shape and clamped of both ends... so idk

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