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stripping oil drain bolt help needed
04/03/12 at 14:00:06

I must have tightened the oil drain plug too much last time.

I'm stripping the bolt using the tool bag 14mm wrench.

I stripped one position of the bolt (rounded off).

Any suggestions how to get this bolt off?

I can't fit a socket in there.

I'm tempted to have a friend come over and help me lay the bike on its side, and try with a breaker bar and a box wrench.

Is it bad to lay the bike on the muffler side?
(it would be in grass)

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krsanky YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 27	Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed Reply #1 - 04/03/12 at 14:06:24 honest i tried searching 1st (i found this searching outside the forum from google) http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1259119627/15
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Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Reply #2 - 04/03/12 at 15:54:18

Tip one... don't use the toolbox wrench, get a real wrench. Those tools are emergency tools only and not made for regular use... (they are crap)..

Tip two... don't try to muscle it loose,.. put the wrench in place, and tap the end of the wrench with a hammer. Use short sharp taps...

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Tip three... don't tighten that thing so much!... Grin

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(also,.. make sure you're turning the right way... Pushing the wrench towards the rear of the bike, right?...)...

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Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Reply #3 - 04/03/12 at 16:15:33

Wrench handle to front,, drive down. Get a box end on it,, & not a piece O crap one,, You may have to file off the boogered up places.
That bolt wont fly out all by itself,, it doesnt hold the axle in,, It doesnt have to be Go Rilla tight,, Leave your caveman at home,,dont take the secretary to it, but any old puter programmer can handle it.

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Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Reply #4 - 04/03/12 at 16:32:47

thx for tips.

i went and bought a nice single box wrench, that was small enuf to fit.
the box wrench gives more angles.

i used the box end and tapped with hammer, it worked.

after filling the oil i didn't tighten so much.
i should have gotten a new bolt, but i dont want to wait for shipping,
and only part of it is worn.

hah i *am* a computer programmer

anybody need some programs written?

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Starlifter Serious Thumper Offline It only snows seven months of the year here. Posts: 3746 Eastern Michigan Gender:	Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed Reply #5 - 04/03/12 at 17:45:43 Send for a new plug anyway, then change out the old one next oil change. They also have magnetic plugs that trap any tiny metal flakes that may be in the oil. I threw away the junk in the on-board tool kit and replaced it with quality stainless steel emergency tools.
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lukeduck Full Member Offline "Come to terms with the ass that bears you" Posts: 166 Ontario, Ca. Gender:	Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed Reply #6 - 04/03/12 at 20:19:43 Oil drain plug 8.5-13 ft.#. That ain't very much. And like they said a really good wrench. Good luck.
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Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Reply #7 - 04/03/12 at 23:45:32

I've learned that oil drain plugs on most vehicles tend to be more tight when removing them than when you installed them.

Had the "wtf why is this so tight? I don't think I overtightened it when I put it back..." On the Savage twice before realizing you need a little less torque than what you need.

As others have mentioned, upgrading to a magnetic plug is a good choice. I did it after my over-tighten scenario. It catches magnetic junk out of the oil and can be a good indicator of what your engine is doing between changes. Order one and wrench it in on the next change, then you can have peace of mind in replacing your partially rounded bolt. Cool

http://www.magneticdrainplug.com/Motorcycle_Drain_Plugs/MP06.html#.T3vtG9U-ZEU

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krsanky YaBB Newbies Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 27	Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed Reply #8 - 04/04/12 at 04:24:18 http://oldcode.org/data/01-Plymouth-Duster.wav
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Gyrobob Serious Thumper Offline Posers ain't motorcyclists Posts: 2571 Newnan, GA Gender:	Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed Reply #9 - 04/06/12 at 19:40:17 Magnetic drain plugs don't do any good, other than to make you feel better about buying and installing a magnetic drain plug. If that makes you feel good, then it is money well spent. They hardly ever do any harm, either. (here we go)
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed Reply #10 - 04/06/12 at 20:07:36 Mine always has a beard on it,, maybe th filter was gonna grab it all,anyway,,
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Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Reply #11 - 04/06/12 at 22:42:55

I most vociferously disagree with both sides here...

The magnet on mine does get ever so slightly bearded,..
...but, I'm not sure that stuff's not so fine it's just lube+...
.. on the other hand,.. if that magnet ever comes loose, there'll be hell to pay..
... 'course,.. it is magnetic, so it prolly won't come loose..
...then again, why risk it...
...'cept it might be workin'...
...but, most of all,.. it's a 14mm an' the old one was 17mm,.. so I can get a box-end on it...

Hope I cleared that up for ya'.. Huh

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Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Reply #12 - 04/07/12 at 06:53:12

Serowbot wrote on 04/06/12 at 22:42:55:

I most vociferously disagree with both sides here...

The magnet on mine does get ever so slightly bearded,..
...but, I'm not sure that stuff's not so fine it's just lube+...
.. on the other hand,.. if that magnet ever comes loose, there'll be hell to pay..
... 'course,.. it is magnetic, so it prolly won't come loose..
...then again, why risk it...
...'cept it might be workin'...
...but, most of all,.. it's a 14mm an' the old one was 17mm,.. so I can get a box-end on it...

Hope I cleared that up for ya'.. Huh

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Nicely stated. When I have had those things, they do get slightly bearded. So what? Not one study has ever been done that shows how bearded drain plugs give your motor more HP or longevity. Know why?,...

There have been cases where the magnet came loose. I haven't heard of it doing any damage, but it does increase my angst level a bit thinking there might be a chunk of something bouncing around in the bottom the crankcase.

There are two reasons you should buy one of these dealies:
1. Most folks just feel all cozy inside thinking they did something nice. This is a good thing.
2. If, when, you change your oil, you seen chunks of stuff on the magnet,.. don't ride that bike anymore until you find out what parts are disintegrating. You might get back on the bike after the oil change, get out on the road, and in the middle of a 60mph turn in the hills, the motor or transmission goes kablooey and locks up, tossing you down the hill. Bad juju.

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Re: stripping oil drain bolt help needed
Reply #14 - 07/15/12 at 20:24:19

krsanky wrote on 04/03/12 at 14:00:06:

I must have tightened the oil drain plug too much last time.

I'm stripping the bolt using the tool bag 14mm wrench.

I stripped one position of the bolt (rounded off).

Any suggestions how to get this bolt off?....

For future reference....

My bike (see my signature line) has the 14mm-headed drain bolt.

Here is what I use to get 'er on and off:

14mm GearWrench....it's the shizz!

IHTH someone!

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