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Reply #45 - 10/20/11 at 22:26:57

justin_o_guy2 wrote on 10/20/11 at 22:15:44:

If its really a low, low battery, it wont fire the plug,
The walking in gear is surely taxing that starter hard, eating juice outta the battery,
Why wont it start in neutral? Darnfino,,

Dont know. Hopefully tomorrow when the sun comes up, I will do the fuel, spark, check. Must not be getting one.

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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #46 - 10/20/11 at 22:27:43 verslagen1 wrote on 10/20/11 at 22:22:51: AZSGT wrote on 10/20/11 at 22:06:34: It also wouldnt push start, which it should even with a dead battery Have you ever push started before? Yes when I had starting issues before.
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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #47 - 10/20/11 at 22:33:30 Did the mangled wires you found look melted? If so, you may have to open up the harness & check for other wires it may have melted into, which could explain no longer needing to pull the clutch lever in. Just a thought I had.
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Reply #48 - 10/20/11 at 22:35:38

RidgeRunner13 wrote on 10/20/11 at 22:33:30:

Did the mangled wires you found look melted? If so, you may have to open up the harness & check for other wires it may have melted into, which could explain no longer needing to pull the clutch lever in. Just a thought I had. Shocked

No thankfully, there was only 2 wires in the harness so nothing else was melted

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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #49 - 10/20/11 at 22:42:38 That harness joins the main one at some point, and then those wires are part of a larger bundle of wires. If they were melted at all, you'll need to find that point & start looking in that area. A melted wire can cause the clutch switch problem, & may have melted through several wires.
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #50 - 10/21/11 at 06:51:59 Ok Where is my clutch lever position switch or what does it look like. I dont think mine is working. I dont need to pull the clutch to start the bike.
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #51 - 10/22/11 at 16:21:07 I still can not figure this thing out and i am at my wits end. Anyone wanna buy a 2006 bobber?????
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MrBrownTX Full Member Offline Posts: 242 Caddo Mills TX Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #52 - 10/22/11 at 16:32:17 This guy recently posted a picture of it http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1319199564
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #53 - 10/22/11 at 16:36:37 Dont panic,, itll fix,, just take some time, read the posts, look for anything youve left out, details.,
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Reply #54 - 10/22/11 at 16:39:49

I am pretty sure I dont have spark. I stuck my test light in the plug wire and cranked it, no light. Wont push start, so it is not battery, at least not only the battery. It has something to do with my clutch or clutch sensor cause i can crank without touching the clutch while in gear. Now I am out of my league and DO NOT want to put any $ into this thing. If I can't figure it out myself, I quit

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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #55 - 10/22/11 at 16:48:13 1) Wont light but will crank 2) Wont push start. Cycles but wont light. 3) Cranks only with stand up. In gear or N. 4) Will crank in gear, without me touching the clutch. 5) I believe there is no spark.
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Reply #56 - 10/22/11 at 17:16:36

AZSGT wrote on 10/22/11 at 16:39:49:

I am pretty sure I dont have spark. I stuck my test light in the plug wire and cranked it, no light. Wont push start, so it is not battery, at least not only the battery. It has something to do with my clutch or clutch sensor cause i can crank without touching the clutch while in gear. Now I am out of my league and DO NOT want to put any $ into this thing. If I can't figure it out myself, I quit

1st of all, you just plugged your light into a 10,000 volt socket.
are you sure you got a filament still?
use a sparky

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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28905 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #57 - 10/22/11 at 17:26:10 AZSGT wrote on 10/22/11 at 16:48:13: 1) Wont light but will crank 2) Wont push start. Cycles but wont light. 3) Cranks only with stand up. In gear or N. 4) Will crank in gear, without me touching the clutch. 5) I believe there is no spark. 3... might be that side stand diode again Neutral light working?
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Reply #58 - 10/22/11 at 17:29:36

Ya v I thought of that. i tested the light before and after. I dont have the tool to take the plug out or that would have been my first choice.

This is my theory. I think it is all through my clutch safety. The bike wont turn over when the stand is down. I think its because the bike never knows the clutch is in or out. Thats also why it will start in gear without clutch.

Now knowing that I shredded some wires, I assume its electrical. I just dont know where the clutch position sensor is.

If the bike thinks the clutch is always in it will let it crank, but because the clutch is actually not, it just cranks, bucks, and doesnt light

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Reply #59 - 10/22/11 at 17:30:23

verslagen1 wrote on 10/22/11 at 17:26:10:

AZSGT wrote on 10/22/11 at 16:48:13:

1) Wont light but will crank

2) Wont push start. Cycles but wont light.

3) Cranks only with stand up. In gear or N.

4) Will crank in gear, without me touching the clutch.

5) I believe there is no spark.

3... might be that side stand diode again
Neutral light working?

Mine is bobbed so I have no N light. how do i go about by passing side stand safety?

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