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HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!!
10/20/11 at 14:26:20

Ok so I have my 2006 with about 7000 on it. I was riding to work today on the freeway. All of the sudden the bike died. No bang, no noise, no smoke no nothing. Just turned off.

So I had it trucked home. When I got home I noticed that a wiring harness containing 2 wires has fallen on the rear tire and chewed up. These 2 wires run down to the cable connector for the rear tire.

I spliced everything back together and now have bigger problems.
When in gear clutch in the starter does nothing or just hums, When in neutral, the starter spins, but does not start.

It sounds like the starter is spinning but the engine is not turning over. It won't push start either. I have no idea what happened.

ANY HELP????!!!!!

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RidgeRunner13 Serious Thumper Offline haulin' the groceries! Posts: 649 Mustang Island, Texas Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #1 - 10/20/11 at 14:46:16 Not sure what you're referring to as the cable connector but first step when bike dies for no apparent mechanical reason is to check: battery, connections, & fuses. It will not run if battery voltage is too low.
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #2 - 10/20/11 at 14:48:42 Battery is only 3 weeks old, and I assumed it died due to the wires that were chewed up. Low battery would not explain why starter turns in N but not in gear. p.s. connector i am speaking of is behind rear brake pedal. 2 wires lead into a connector that runs to brake pedal
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #3 - 10/20/11 at 15:39:55 Don't think so Serow. tried jumping it across. At least I think so. It's hard to tell cause if its not the issue it still won't start Any other way to bypass it and see if thats the case? Also if its the side stand why wouldnt it start in neutral??? It turns over in neutral but does nothing in gear.
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Demin Serious Thumper Offline We need more chlorine in the gene pool Posts: 2435 Warren,Ohio Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #4 - 10/20/11 at 15:50:46 Is your stand up,when trying it in gear?I would check more wires.Possibly another wire disconnected.
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #5 - 10/20/11 at 15:52:01 OK NEW SYMPTOM. When in gear, clutch in, the starter is running. The bike wont start but it "walks forward" When motor is running the bike moves forward. Only when stand up clutch in. Stand down= NOTHING
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Demin Serious Thumper Offline We need more chlorine in the gene pool Posts: 2435 Warren,Ohio Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #6 - 10/20/11 at 16:01:29 They're designed not to run in gear with the stand down.Sounds like clutch might need adjusted some.
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #7 - 10/20/11 at 16:03:53 Ya but stand down and clutch in it should still turn over. and when in neutral the bike should start regardless so........
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #8 - 10/20/11 at 16:13:03 I would take the battery to town & have it tested & charged. Until you are certain its good & fully charged, you can chase phantoms.
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #9 - 10/20/11 at 16:24:01 The battery is fine. It is new, the bike started fine this morning, and dead battery would not cause the bike to "walk itself" when i engage the starter.
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MrBrownTX Full Member Offline Posts: 242 Caddo Mills TX Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #10 - 10/20/11 at 16:26:25 If you're saying its lunging forward like the clutch isn't in it sounds like the clutch is your problem.
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #11 - 10/20/11 at 16:27:20 Thats what I am thinking. Only why won't it start in N? The clutch matters not when its in neutral?????
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #12 - 10/20/11 at 16:29:36 yeah, but you had a short. No telling how much juice got bled off.
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AZSGT Full Member Offline 2006 Bobber Posts: 132 Mesa, AZ Gender:	Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!! Reply #13 - 10/20/11 at 16:30:53 But the battery still doesnt explain the walking in gear NEW SYMPTOM: When in gear kickstand down- starter does nothing When in gear kickstand up- dont even need clutch in to start. And when I do it does the walk forward So obviously my clutch is messed somehow. But where. Why can I start it without clutch in while in gear?
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Re: HUGE HUGE PROBLEM!!!!
Reply #14 - 10/20/11 at 16:38:24

AZSGT wrote on 10/20/11 at 14:26:20:

1.All of the sudden the bike died.

2.wiring harness chewed up. I spliced everything back together

and now have bigger problems.

3.When in gear, clutch in, the starter does nothing or just hums,

4.When in neutral, the starter spins, but does not start. It sounds like the starter is spinning but the engine is not turning over.

3. hums, not clicking?

4.spins... but engine doesn't turn over.

3 tells me your decomp is out of adjustment
4... is the engine spinning?

And if it's lurching forward, your clutch is out of adjustment.

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