Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 08/09/11 at 08:30:40:

I bought it used in 2008 (1 year old) from a former co-worker. He said he never dropped it and I have no reason not to trust him. I've never dropped it.

I'm not aware of any other "events". Although, I did just have it shipped from NY to WA in a moving truck. They may have tightened it down too much.

I'll take a pic when I get a chance.

-D. Dwarf

That's how I bent mine, it was strapped down with straps in the bed of a pick up truck while resting on the side stand.

I got back most of the angle lost when I put the big magnet on the end of the foot -- it also acts like a pavement puck to keep the bike from digging into heat soften pavement.


Surprise, nobody's bike is new .... they all have had events of some sort.

Routy wrote on 08/09/11 at 09:40:00:

I actually hadn't found this "HOT TEST" before, so I did a version of it this morning, engine was not real hot (only about a 2 mile in town ride before checking)
BTW, running blue jug ROTSYN

Cold engine...on the SS, oil level is just barely visible in the window.

Engine semi-hot, normal idle, bike vertical, window is just over 1/2 full of oil.

Just above idle, (fast idle), bike vertical, window is 3/4 oil....some bubbles.

Slow idle, (I don't do a slow idle).

So according to what Oldfeller said and the REAL hot test done by Routy, he has too much oil in it. But he filled it cold on the SS to the bottom mark. When he did the test it was somewhere between the bottom mark and the bottom of the glass. Now if he had it at the bottom of the glass to begin with when cold, and then doing the Oldfeller hot test, it probably would still fill half the glass. That means he still has too much oil according to Oldfeller.

Nope, too much oil on the HOT TEST is a full window.   The preceding paragraph got several people pumped up quite a bit, but none of you who got pumped up noticed it contained erroneous information put down by a brick person who has never done a HOT TEST in his life.  Go back up thread and read the HOT TEST again.  Oldfeller

I understand that there's people that have problems getting down to look at the glass with the bike upright and therefore like the bottom of the glass fill when cold and on SS, to not have to do that.

What I do is, I found a spot in my front yard that is pretty good level. I turn the handlebar all the way left and put a piece of leftover 4x4 under the SS. That gets it pretty good vertical and level without trying to flip over to the other side. I put a bubble level on the starter and that confirms it that it's level. Then I got my hands free to get down on my knees comfortably to check the oil in the glass window. And that's how I fill it when I change oil-to the upper mark.
It isn't too much effort, I keep the small piece of 4x4 handy and just park in the same spot.
I check it every time before I go on a longer run. And I also check it after I came back.

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turn the handlebar all the way left and put a piece of leftover 4x4 under the SS. That gets it pretty good vertical and level without trying to flip over to the other side.
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Can I say that using a 4x4 won't work on an all standard bike ?
At least mine can't be trusted on little more than a 2x4 if the wind was blowin left to right !

It seems to me that this thread is now more than checkin the oil an easier way. It now is....how much more oil will it safely hold.

I just tried the hot test . My oil is barely visible cold on the side stand . After driving 15 minutes I stood it up level on a brick under the kickstand  ,at regular idle and high idle  the window is full of oil  . I guess I should empty some out ,but I didn't see any oil in the air cleaner compartment ,when I changed my air filter . I'm not sure about this hot test.

EJID said, "....... just ride it and if I have a little blow out the crankcase breather I shouldn't worry? That is the purpose of that breather isn't it?

The crankcase breather allows the crankcase pressure pulses to breathe.  In our motor (being a thumper) the pulses are intense.  Everytime the piston goes down, it wants to pump air into the crankcase,.. and on a power stroke, it is even more intense because of blow by.

The breather lets this air/fume mix escape.

When the piston is on a compression or exhaust stroke (moving upwards) there is just of the opposite of a pressure pulse,... the crankcase wants to suck in a lot of air.    That is why breather tubes should have filters on them -- they suck in outside air.

So, in the crankcase, it is SUCK/BLOW/SUCK/BLOW/SUCK/BLOW to the tune of 100 times each second at 6,000 rpm.  

The breather lets the crankcase vent those suckblow pressure pulses.

If you have oil coming out the breather, you are overfilled.