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justin_o_guy2
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Reply #15 - 12/06/10 at 08:01:50
 
If theyre just hasslin ya, document it & offer to sue the bastards.
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Reply #16 - 12/06/10 at 10:43:35
 
The stock seat on my '08 S50 has a strap between the driver and passenger areas.  So far no one has bothered me about not having a strap on my Mustang seat.  But I'm far from 19.

I would fit a belt around the front of the pillion as mentioned.
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Reply #17 - 12/06/10 at 11:25:27
 
The way I read the law in Fla., He is legal now, nothng needs added. Just the cops need subtracted from his life. If you know your rights & stand for them, theyll have to leave you alone. Or you can sue them. individually, w/o the "free pass" they get for being a city employee. They step from behind that shield when they behave in an illegal manner.



http://lawmdr.com/docs/42_USC_1983.pdf


Anyone, who under color of law ( pretense that since they arre a cop, you must obey) deprives any citizen of rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution is subject to civil & or criminal penalties pursuant to Title 42 USC, section 1983,1985, 1986 & or title 18 USC section 241 & 242.


USC = United States Code


Get a copy of the law in Fla, showing the requirements.
Have it with you.
Ask a cop if ignorance of the law is an excuse for breaking the law.
Answerf will be NO.
Ask if he has to obey the law.
He'll say yes.

Show him the law & show him how close to being sued he is.

Expect repurcussions.
Get a tiny videocamera & keep it on you at all times for a few months after you teach the punks to shut up & leave YOU alone.

Just the way I think, you do what YOU want to do.. Im a bit of a gadfly..
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Reply #18 - 12/06/10 at 11:51:44
 
Easy JOG, don't get the boy hurt!  

I'd say you are just gonna have to be extra careful.  If he wants to stop you, he will find a reason.  If he isn't giving you tickets, then maybe offer him a ride! lol  Maybe he's jealous of your bike.... or of your passenger.  Who knows.  As long as you aren't breaking the law, eventually he will get tired of pulling you over.  hopefully...
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Reply #19 - 12/06/10 at 11:53:12
 
Yea, dealin with a cop here,, might need to be afraid..

I sure hate that weve come to thins.
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Reply #20 - 12/06/10 at 12:15:03
 
Guys remember this is a "Florida Cop"! I bet he went to a Florida school, and votes in Florida elections!
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Reply #21 - 12/06/10 at 13:44:29
 
In a previous life (I was much younger then - better looking too as I remember it), I would drive around a particular county to avoid being pulled over. It didn't seem to matter what version of LEO would see me, local, county, state, they would pull me over, do a safety check or whatever. Since this county was between where my (now) wife lived and where I lived, I spent a fair amount of time driving between. I always figured there was some ne'er do well that drove a similar car to mine and must have had some bad habits that caused LEOs to be interested enough to pull them over just out of habit. So it took less time to drive around than through. In retrospect my car was a foreign sports car, and probably fairly unique for rural Illinois, so they may have been looking for me. I did try to minimize the time spent travelling.  Wink
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Reply #22 - 12/06/10 at 13:52:25
 
My 67 red MGB with Massachusetts plates earned me many stops by the locals in North and South Carolina, way back when.  Fortuneately I was in the Army and the military ID smoothed it over most times.... Wink
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Reply #23 - 12/06/10 at 14:19:11
 
You said "campus police?" They probably don't have much if any authority under the Florida Traffic Act (or whatever it's called). Don't forget the University is private property, and traffic laws don't usually apply on private property. eg: in Ontario the only things a driver can be charged with while on private property are leaving the scene of an accident, and dangerous driving.
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Reply #24 - 12/06/10 at 14:26:33
 
kimchris1 wrote on 12/05/10 at 11:44:28:
Insurance is not mandatory either.

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quick change in law, the legislators got this in
it is now legal for you to bypass a signal device, they can ask for insurance if they decide to stop you for that. and that only, i've schooled a few police on the subject.
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Reply #25 - 12/06/10 at 16:49:13
 
yea on my campus we dont have actual campus police. They are real 5.0 and just decide to sit in there alot to catch all the kids whipping around in what mommy and daddy bought them. but i printed the laws and will be a nice addition to my saddlebag from now on!
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Reply #26 - 12/06/10 at 17:59:44
 
arteacher wrote on 12/06/10 at 14:19:11:
You said "campus police?" They probably don't have much if any authority under the Florida Traffic Act (or whatever it's called). Don't forget the University is private property, and traffic laws don't usually apply on private property. eg: in Ontario the only things a driver can be charged with while on private property are leaving the scene of an accident, and dangerous driving.

Not really....9 times outta 10, the roads are either state or local owned. William and Mary campus police have as much authority as any State Policeman. State law supersedes any local ordinance since colleges fall under State authority, not local.
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Reply #27 - 12/06/10 at 18:40:31
 
Last campus I worked on, Univ. of Alaska Anchorage, had sworn weapon carrying officers that could and did write citations for DUI, MIP, Concealed weapons, etc, so depends on the school. Also shot moose when they became a hazard to the College population. Max
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Reply #28 - 12/06/10 at 20:17:57
 
Thanks Sluggo for the update. Smiley kim
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Reply #29 - 12/06/10 at 20:42:50
 
mornhm - FSO wrote on 12/06/10 at 13:44:29:
In a previous life (I was much younger then - better looking too as I remember it), I would drive around a particular county to avoid being pulled over. It didn't seem to matter what version of LEO would see me, local, county, state, they would pull me over, do a safety check or whatever. Since this county was between where my (now) wife lived and where I lived, I spent a fair amount of time driving between. I always figured there was some ne'er do well that drove a similar car to mine and must have had some bad habits that caused LEOs to be interested enough to pull them over just out of habit. So it took less time to drive around than through. In retrospect my car was a foreign sports car, and probably fairly unique for rural Illinois, so they may have been looking for me. I did try to minimize the time spent travelling.  Wink


Ill Noise is a bubba cop state.  I ran afoul of this situation when I lived there.

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