Digger is one of the active defendants, so his vote, Charon's and Bill's won't be counted until the very end along with all the various plantiffs's votes.
(we are trying to poll the Kangaroo Kourt right now, but it seems the jury box is pretty much empty at this stage).
For Vertical, we got laminated wood blocks, bricks, sticks, walls, multiple tie downs, spirit levels, quite a few long handled mirrors and various other paraphernalia needed to do a "proper" upright check without getting hurt. We also got 126 list user reported problems doing Vertical, 7 personal injuries and 5 dropped bikes.(and that is just what the guys will admit to -- we ain't getting told the really ugly ones ....)For Side Stand, we got a quick glance downwards as you walk up to the bike simply using your standard issue Mark I eyeball. Although asked repeatedly,
so far we have no reported issues either on this thread or over at the original thread in Tech Section.
http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1283793450/27#27(there are two clicks for problems, one guy admitted he screwed up clicking with his mouse, the other remained silent as to his situation, whatever it might have been)
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So, if you wanted to try to do a straw count of the final vote it might go sorta like this .....
Kangaroo Kourt is tied at 4 each
For Vertical, add in the 3 defense side people
from the Tech Thread add in the 2 who screwed up their clicks but had no problem to report (gotta be fair now)
being generous and fair, add in the 22 people who voted neutral as they are still verticalling at this point in time (but admit to sitting on the teetery top edge of the fence)
That's a grand total of 31 votes for vertical (giving vertical all the help you possibly could, cause it needs it)
Now for Sidestand, it has gained quite a few since this thread started up (and it will gain more as time goes on, I suspect) ....
Lets see now, 4 from the Kangaroo Kourt, 2 plaintiffs, and 30 from the other thread makes 36 total.
So with 67 being the sample count (about half the active posting list getting counted in this survey) we have about half and half for each method, with the side stand method growing rapidly and the vertical method losing ground accordingly.
Remember boys and girls, keep on checking and looking for any issues with that side stand method -- we is still a looking for that secret flaw to the side stand system to equal the one that Bill found for the vertical method ....
(and that being that unconsciously you get whatever vertical oil level you are looking for by unconsciously tilting the bike jest a little tiny bit one way or another)go Bill, go !!