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... trouble finding "true vertical" ... trouble maintaining balance ... trouble seeing the window ... trouble judging the oil level ... glasses slipped (upside down) ... had to do it again to be sure ... strained your back or neck ... lost control of things (oops) « Created by: Oldfeller--FSO on: 11/02/10 at 09:48:22 »

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #270 - 11/27/10 at 07:01:56 Bill, she's on the other side of the bike, you know that don't you? .... and being all small and dainty, she's likely to drop the durn thing on your head again. "clicky click, click" goes Bill's empty gun
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feelinjunky Full Member Offline No Comment Posts: 238 NJ	Re: oil level in window Reply #271 - 11/27/10 at 09:46:34 I check my oil immediately after I did an oil and filter change. I come back weeks later, having not touched the bike and the oil is lower. She needs oil to live, guys. She needs it to breathe and drinks a few drops daily, even when lonely...I'll give a cookie to the first person to tell me why this is so.
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Serowbot YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline OK.... so what's the speed of dark? Posts: 28707 Tucson Az Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #272 - 11/27/10 at 09:53:54 feelinjunky wrote on 11/27/10 at 09:46:34: I'll give a cookie to the first person to tell me why this is so. Kleptomaniacal carport squirrels... ...
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Reply #273 - 11/27/10 at 09:57:36

feelinjunky wrote on 11/27/10 at 09:46:34:

I check my oil immediately after I did an oil and filter change. I come back weeks later, having not touched the bike and the oil is lower. She needs oil to live, guys. She needs it to breathe and drinks a few drops daily, even when lonely...I'll give a cookie to the first person to tell me why this is so.

Sounds like a case of cylinder slugs to me.

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #274 - 11/27/10 at 10:06:17 Ah, you didn't actually run the bike by any chance? Using them motorcycles can cause them to move a little oil ..... run it up into the head bath, fill up galleries, etc.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: oil level in window Reply #275 - 11/27/10 at 10:41:59 People who go to "heroic" levels to empty the oil OUT may find they can get more IN than the book says it needs. They should also see a greater drop in oil level when it gets started the first time, pumping oil back into places it should stay.
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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #276 - 11/27/10 at 11:02:45 Yeah, the smart ones of us that use the side stand method don't get bothered very much by these little issues. We got reserve capacity ... But them greenie vertical boys don't have much to spare, so they have to sweat all them little details ....
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bill67 Serious Thumper Offline old tired Posts: 8517 genoa city wisconsin Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #277 - 11/27/10 at 11:10:58 OF you have it all wrong the Japs take United States ideas and improve on them not the other way around.
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Reply #278 - 11/27/10 at 11:30:33

Oh, is that why we have all those corrections in our Clymer's manuals and had to redo the cam chain and cam chain tensioner system?

As well as white insert mod the carb?

And fix the speedo rattle?

And fix the headlight rattle?

And fix the head rubber plug leak?

Japanese owner's manual say "balance motorcycle right on edge of destruction" so you have to put your head to ground and big American butt up in air so smart Japanese people can LAUGH at you from behind our straight faces.

Oh so sorry, you drop your motorcycle and need new mirror and clutch lever, sooooo bad, we sell you new parts for plenty yen !!!

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Reply #279 - 11/27/10 at 11:40:32

bill67 wrote on 11/27/10 at 11:10:58:

OF you have it all wrong the Japs take United States ideas and improve on them not the other way around.

That was in the 60's. Was a time when "Made in Japan" had me walking away from things. Then, they got better & better & finally, their products were Top Shelf, World Class.. then, they went thru about 20 years of Zero Interest, & the accompanying economic downturn & their products stopped being such fabulous creations..

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Oldfeller--FSO Serious Thumper ModSquad Offline Hobby is now "concentrated neuropany" Posts: 12673 Fayetteville, NC Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #280 - 11/27/10 at 11:48:39 The Japanese don't even make the parts for the current Savage, the bits and pieces for the engines and frame parts come from China and India. Does the name Li-Fan ring any bells with you? Guess why your cam chain life nose-dived since year 2000 ? .... and the smart Japanese people laugh at the ugly stupid butt-up-in-air Giajin
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Reply #281 - 11/27/10 at 12:27:56

Guess why your cam chain life nose-dived since year 2000 ?

So, you really DO expect major differences in life span of the cam chains with the Special Order chains?

When did they change the tensioner spring? Did they make it stronger or weaker? IIRC, they softened it up a bit. If so, maybe it was because they knew the chain they were puttin in was crap.

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feelinjunky Full Member Offline No Comment Posts: 238 NJ	Re: oil level in window Reply #282 - 11/27/10 at 12:39:47 Oldfeller--FSO wrote on 11/27/10 at 10:06:17: Ah, you didn't actually run the bike by any chance? Using them motorcycles can cause them to move a little oil ..... run it up into the head bath, fill up galleries, etc. gives Oldfeller a cookie I did not run it. Oil filter soaked some oil up.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28890 L.A. California Gender:	Re: oil level in window Reply #283 - 11/27/10 at 12:41:30 If I remember correctly, it is about a pound stronger to begin with and the same at end of travel.
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Reply #284 - 11/27/10 at 13:14:21

Justin, I had gone back direct to Borg Warner wearing my corporate QC hat and spoke with one of the chain's original designers, explained the short life problem we were seeing on the Savage and he told us which specific nitriding system would give MAXIMUM LIFE in our particular application (which barely wears the chain at all between new and totally shot to shite because you got no decent amount of travel in our cam chain adjustment system).

He then communicated directly to the Japanese Borg Warner facility that used to make our cam chain and they whupped us up a batch of Japanese built custom improved chains that exactly suit the Savage engine.

Lancer sent them out to everybody at half the retail cost of a standard chain and the small profit margin we left in on purpose on top of that went to help maintain the list for a year and a bit with the $$ from the first order.

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