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Question: While checking your oil level using Suzuki method

... trouble finding "true vertical"
... trouble maintaining balance
... trouble seeing the window
... trouble judging the oil level
... glasses slipped (upside down)
... had to do it again to be sure
... strained your back or neck
... lost control of things  (oops)


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Reply #105 - 11/04/10 at 04:59:34
 
Looking at the poll, something don't seem right.
Did everyone know that you could vote more than one thing in the menu ? In my case, I voted 3 things,...
1- trouble maintaining balance
2- trouble seeing window
3- oops, lost control.....bike fell over

I just don't see how most people could have trouble w/ 1 of them, and not have a problem w/ another.

PS on edit......
I just realized that the total maybe represents the total of checks, and not the total of people.
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Reply #106 - 11/04/10 at 18:35:50
 

Polls on this list require you to remath the numbers to have them make any sense.

This poll recorded relative frequency/importance of the list of issues.  Everyone had to respond to see the poll (everyone has done the Suzuki Method so everyone had some input to give)

The stated purpose for me was to see how many honest people there were who would admit to (oops) dropping the bike.

The answer was 3.

Heck, if the question had been "Almost dropped the bike" I would have had to respond yes too, I didn't drop it but it was a headed that way ....

The number of strain injuries corresponds to the number of (oops) you are in an awkward position and are likely to strain something as you fight not to drop the bike.   Once again, the answer was 3




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So, you got nobody proposing any real reason not to check your oil with the bike on the side stand.

As far as this war goes, looks like it is about petered out due to lack of reasonable reasons to keep on doing what you done been doing.

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Good news, you can change what you do

And likely when you start using some oil regularly you will change, as you got a very slight safety reserve of oil using the Suzuki Method and you will eventually go too low once or twice due to a trip or a little bit of slackness, then you will remember the sidestand method and the greater safety reserve it supplies.

And once you try it you will say "Jeeze, all those times I bent over and struggled with the bike -- and I didn't even have to !!"

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Reply #107 - 11/04/10 at 22:04:50
 
Ive got it down so checking the oil is really pretty danged easy..
However, Pretty Danged Easy is sttill more hassle than just walking up & looking at it, so, Im gonna change the way I do it.
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Reply #108 - 11/05/10 at 02:32:12
 
Seems like another lopsided poll to me.  The only choices allowed are for a problem.  There is no choice like "No problem whatsoever".  How can I vote?  I guess I have just been lucky in the last 10 years of ownership.  Oldfeller, you should change your handle to "Spindoctor".  You would make a great politician. Smiley

When my bike starts buring more oil than 4 oz every 500 miles then I will try the overfill method.  Until that time I guess I will just follow the Suzuki instructions and continue doing things the hard way.
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Reply #109 - 11/05/10 at 03:54:01
 

Ls650v, at least you know that there is another easier method that has a "no risk of low oil" benefit to give to you when you decide you want it.  

That is the reason we do these little oil war exercises
(other than pure boredom of course).

At 21,000 + miles, aren't you using some oil now anyway (topping up between oil changes)?

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Reply #110 - 11/05/10 at 04:33:33
 
Quote:
 There is no choice like "No problem whatsoever".
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Define the word "problem"
Define the word "inconvenience"
It doesn't necessarily have to be a problem.
But I don't know how anyone could have honestly voted "no problem whatsoever",.......except Bill......(sorry, the devil made me do it !)
It wasn't a problem for me before I dropped my bike.
But it was a big inconvenience. After I dropped it, then there was a big problem,....w/ a saftey factor built in.
Then came the 2x4 trick which was no problem, and only a little inconvenient,.......except when there was no 2x4 around, then it was a problem.
But now using the "overfill method" we got rid of the problem, if there was one, and the "inconvenience".....which there was a big one, and the saftey factor,....which there was one.
I just wish I had invented it, but I have this feeling that this method has been used by (maybe smarter) others long before us.

Yep, its "boredom", thats what it is ! Undecided



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Reply #111 - 11/05/10 at 04:45:36
 


The real issue here is men and their habits.



Getting someone to acknowledge that something might be better is one thing.  

Men always tell their wives that they hear them, right?


Roll Eyes          "Yes, Honey -- you're right, dear".          jest  tell 'um anything to get them to shut up about it


Actually overcoming their old habits for them to actually change what they do is something else again.


That generally requires reality to give them a swift  kick in the pants.



Sad              My engine is WHAT !!?? because the durn oil got too low???            Embarrassed           awshit
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Reply #112 - 11/05/10 at 06:17:46
 
I decided to sell my S40 its just to dang hard to check the oil level. Grin
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Reply #113 - 11/05/10 at 06:27:34
 

Give us all the specs on the bike, Bill so we can decide if we want to buy it.










I smell provoke #3 here, let's see if he's just funnin' us again  Wink


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Reply #114 - 11/05/10 at 08:19:49
 
Bill,
You forgot you were one of those that didn't have any problem w/ it,..... remember,....the foxy lady holding it vertical while you were horizontal ??
Oh wow, what did I say ??  Shocked Sorry Bill !

bill67 wrote on 11/05/10 at 06:17:46:
I decided to sell my S40 its just to dang hard to check the oil level. Grin

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Reply #115 - 11/05/10 at 08:39:16
 
Thats right maybe I will keep it thats a good reason.
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Reply #116 - 11/05/10 at 13:40:33
 

Get what Bill?   Get horizontal with a foxy lady ??

Suuuurrrre there, 'ol buddy -- what would you do with her once you got her there?


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Back to your bike, what year is it, how many miles do you have on it and what does its maintenance record look like?

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Reply #117 - 11/05/10 at 17:45:14
 
No matter how you check your oil, what the brand is, where you leave it in the sight glass, yadda, yadda, yadda, THE POINT IS---it seems like everybody here is checking their oil. That's a good thing! Now if you really want to get down on me, ask me when was the last time I checked the air in my tires.
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Reply #118 - 11/05/10 at 19:38:13
 
What? You didn't know you are supposed to change the air in the tires every time you change the oil? Unless you use dry nitrogen instead of air, in which case it is only every other time.
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Reply #119 - 11/05/10 at 20:05:26
 
Don't use helium, that stuff will leak thru inconel.
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