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Tiefighterpilot Senior Member Offline Daily Rider Posts: 346 San Francisco	Re: running lean/hot Reply #30 - 09/10/10 at 22:08:06 what would be considered tuned for performance? thanks DrunkenDwarf wrote on 09/09/10 at 09:24:18: Arnold wrote on 09/09/10 at 08:35:39: But isnt backfiring directly related to lean mixture? Or rich. Or intake leak. Or exhaust leak. Or tuned for performance. (POPs, not BANGs) -D. Dwarf
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Routy Serious Thumper Offline SuzukiSavage.com Rocks! Posts: 2280 Winston Oregon Gender:	Re: running lean/hot Reply #31 - 09/10/10 at 22:11:45 I'm Rich My bike is perfect. babyhog wrote on 09/10/10 at 11:54:06: I'M not too rich, my bike is... LOL But that's what I was thinking. Thx
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Re: running lean/hot
Reply #32 - 09/11/10 at 00:12:37

Tiefighterpilot wrote on 09/10/10 at 22:08:06:

what would be considered tuned for performance?

thanks

DrunkenDwarf wrote on 09/09/10 at 09:24:18:

Arnold wrote on 09/09/10 at 08:35:39:

But isnt backfiring directly related to lean mixture?

Or rich.
Or intake leak.
Or exhaust leak.
Or tuned for performance. (POPs, not BANGs)

-D. Dwarf

tuned for performance is on the very edge of being lean but not lean, tuned for durability is just a shade richer to keep the engine cooler

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Tiefighterpilot Senior Member Offline Daily Rider Posts: 346 San Francisco	Re: running lean/hot Reply #33 - 09/12/10 at 17:42:10 thank you.
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Re: running lean/hot
Reply #34 - 09/12/10 at 18:13:08

I was smelling gas with my pilot jet at 55. I as also getting some big pops on shut off. Like a .22 cal gun fire. Popcorns popping on decel. I changed the pilot to 52.5. No more gas smell. but still some loud pops and popcorns. no leaks in exhaust and intake (double checked).

Can the gas smell be due to stock washer or spark plug not firing right? too hot or too cold?

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Arnold Serious Thumper Offline The dude abides... Posts: 896 Westchester, NY Gender:	Re: running lean/hot Reply #35 - 09/12/10 at 18:20:17 Sounds like it smelled gas with the 55 because you were suddenly idling way too rich. Did you ever try to go clockwise on the mixture screw to go leaner?
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Tiefighterpilot Senior Member Offline Daily Rider Posts: 346 San Francisco	Re: running lean/hot Reply #36 - 09/12/10 at 19:11:29 Yes, but back firing got really bad.
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Arnold Serious Thumper Offline The dude abides... Posts: 896 Westchester, NY Gender:	Re: running lean/hot Reply #37 - 09/13/10 at 05:06:53 You know, I have kind of the same issue. I have the 55 pilot, no gas smell and no leaks but I cant get rid of backfiring once and for all. I just live with it, more noticeable because the muffler has no baffle now. In all, I cant seem to get the performance I want with the sound I want so I am stuck somewhere in between.
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Tiefighterpilot Senior Member Offline Daily Rider Posts: 346 San Francisco	Re: running lean/hot Reply #38 - 09/13/10 at 10:23:30 have you changed out the spark plug? I am thinking it is not firing all the time. Clymers manual's troubleshooting says that backfiring can be caused by bad or incorrect sparkplug. that is what I will be checking next. Also, do you have washer mod done?
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Re: running lean/hot
Reply #39 - 09/13/10 at 10:36:00

Yes, I did the 2 white spacer mod while I had the carb opened. I agree with you that my plug may be bad, especially messing with the mixture as I have been. If I must add though, taking the tank off to remove the plug is a crappy design, so far the only bad thing I found about this bike. Laziness so far prevented me to check the plug

I'll have the shop replace it when my free maintenance is up.

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Tiefighterpilot Senior Member Offline Daily Rider Posts: 346 San Francisco	Re: running lean/hot Reply #40 - 09/13/10 at 10:57:08 Anyone remember the link to door mod? I can't find it. Thanks.
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Arnold Serious Thumper Offline The dude abides... Posts: 896 Westchester, NY Gender:	Re: running lean/hot Reply #41 - 09/13/10 at 11:04:35 What's door mod?
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Tiefighterpilot Senior Member Offline Daily Rider Posts: 346 San Francisco	Re: running lean/hot Reply #42 - 09/13/10 at 11:53:27 This mod will allow access to spark plug without removing the tank. Open the chrom cover like door.
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Arnold Serious Thumper Offline The dude abides... Posts: 896 Westchester, NY Gender:	Re: running lean/hot Reply #43 - 09/13/10 at 11:56:34 Holy crap, I want that. Search is on...
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Arnold Serious Thumper Offline The dude abides... Posts: 896 Westchester, NY Gender:	Re: running lean/hot Reply #44 - 09/13/10 at 11:59:30 Here it is: http://www.jonline.org/savage/Tips___How-to_s/Tips___Tricks/tips___tricks.htm
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