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05/02/10 at 09:01:21
 
...but, but, all the Repub campaign ads I'm seeing right now = "gov't BAD"

I'm confused. These GOP Tea Bag wanna-be wingnut legislators are all running on the 'private industry/free market good -- Obama & Pelosi's socialist librul federal gov't bad' mantra, calling for smaller gov't and lower taxes etc.

But wait ... here's Bobby Jindal - not pleading for BP to get THEIR asses in gear and clean the mess they're making in the Gulf - but for the FEDERAL GOV'T to do it.

So, big gov't is only 'good' when private industry screws up and causes a catastrophe it never planned to fix/doesn't want to pay for?
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Reply #1 - 05/02/10 at 13:07:47
 
Lifter, my Friend -

BP's CEO has already publicly announced the company's intent to pay compensation to all those whose interests had been harmed by the spill.  So your statement that they won't/don't want to pay is in error.

As Col. Pescatori said, there are means to stop/prevent these spills   in use in European offshore wells.  So, require the same thing here.

To quote the old saying, "don't toss the baby out with the bath water".  We cannot continue to depend on unreliable and expensive foreign oil, and be at the mercy of OPEC or South American nuts like Chavez.

We simply need to think and act rationally - solve the prevention problem and continue drilling.
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Reply #2 - 05/02/10 at 13:12:40
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 05/02/10 at 13:07:47:
Lifter, my Friend -

BP's CEO has already publicly announced the company's intent to pay compensation to all those whose interests had been harmed by the spill.  So your statement that they won't/don't want to pay is in error.

As Col. Pescatori said, there are means to stop/prevent these spills   in use in European offshore wells.  So, require the same thing here.

To quote the old saying, "don't toss the baby out with the bath water".  We cannot continue to depend on unreliable and expensive foreign oil, and be at the mercy of OPEC or South American nuts like Chavez.

We simply need to think and act rationally - solve the prevention problem and continue drilling.




Ohh, but the knnee jerk reaction is so much more emotionally rewarding in that it keeps with the agenda.
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Reply #3 - 05/02/10 at 15:24:42
 
I'm a little curious why you call it "Lake Palin." Sarah Palin (presumably the namesake of the lake) was Governor of Alaska, a far piece from the Gulf of Mexico. She resigned that office a while back, and is in no public office now. It is very difficult for me to see how she could be held in any way to blame.
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Reply #4 - 05/02/10 at 15:30:28
 
 Lot of people complained about GWB but he always used his head. Grin
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Reply #5 - 05/02/10 at 16:53:49
 
Charon wrote on 05/02/10 at 15:24:42:
I'm a little curious why you call it "Lake Palin." Sarah Palin (presumably the namesake of the lake) was Governor of Alaska, a far piece from the Gulf of Mexico. She resigned that office a while back, and is in no public office now. It is very difficult for me to see how she could be held in any way to blame.

that was one of her stupid sayings,"Drill baby drill" that is why they call it lake Palin,make sense now ?
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Reply #6 - 05/02/10 at 17:49:49
 
I like that - Lake Palin- The biggest oil lake found above gr Cheesyound anywhere in the world. Why worry - it is a potential realestate hotspot. Chop it up into some investment derivatives, could make a killing - oh it has? 13 dead?
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Reply #7 - 05/02/10 at 21:04:46
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 05/02/10 at 13:07:47:
Lifter, my Friend -

BP's CEO has already publicly announced the company's intent to pay compensation to all those whose interests had been harmed by the spill.  


I'll believe that when I see it!!!

Doesn't Exxon, the company that made 36 billion last year, still owe 17 million to the EPA (25 years later)?

Wait two years and then try to buy Gulf shrimp at your local Red Lobster...if they are still in business. What is the cost to the country over say 30 years...and is BP going to be there?

We are cutting the manned flights of NASA at a time when we should be building solar farms in space and microwaving electricity back to the grid. We had the people and the technology in place since since 1969, when Nixon closed the space program down. And yet we have fought three wars and had an oil crisis in '73,'79, and 2008. We didn't have money to go into space and get cheap energy, but we had money to go to war?

Starlifter, you are dead on!
I have a question for you though. Why is it that on day one of this disaster they mentioned BP and Halliburton in the same sentence and I haven't heard the name Halliburton since then?
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Reply #8 - 05/03/10 at 09:56:01
 
http://www.chinaeconomicreview.com/dailybriefing/2009_11_06/Statoil_partners_...
Roll Eyes your choice i guess, we drill our own or we buy from china who is gonna drill there.....
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Reply #9 - 05/03/10 at 12:50:47
 
THE Gulf of Mexico oil spill may be growing five times faster than previously estimated and is in danger of accelerating out of control, it was claimed yesterday.

Experts said satellite data indicated the oil was gushing from BP’s sunken Deepwater Horizon rig at 25,000 barrels a day. Previous estimates had put the leak at 5,000 barrels a day.

Professor Ian MacDonald, an ocean specialist at Florida State University, said the new estimate suggested the leak had already spread 9m gallons of heavy crude oil across the Gulf. This compares with 11m that leaked from the Exxon Valdez tanker when it hit a reef off Alaska in 1989.

The reality is that this spill may well not be contained not for 3 mos. but 6 mos. As things are now, oil will reach all around the Atlantic, including into European waters. I can see good portions of the Atlantic being slick with oil.

If the piping blows, that is it. We are done. People are not seemingly getting it, are they? If that hole blows, we do not have the means to stop it. The US Navy's subs are designed for nautical warfare, not for plugging holes. At the moment, the oil is coming out at 1 ton/sq inch. Even if you could get a device close enough to it to cap it, you'd need to contend with the force of pressure as well as the heat. The current effort on BP's part to create some caps is with the piping still somewhat intact in mind. They will seek to cap the piping.

If the hole blows and detaches what's left of the piping, there is no known means to cap the hole. At 1 mile in depth, where you cannot see anything and have nothing that can handle the depth like it can even at .5 mi, what are they going to do?

All our technology over the past 200 years has had one focus, with little exception, in mind: developing the surface world. We are way behind on developing or working in the sub-sea-surface world. The only machines we have to manage the sub-sea-surface have been made to do two things mostly: fight and explore. Some have been designed to plunge holes into the sea-bottom, but not to un-plunge them. We cannot come up with the right technology in time to save our bacon from this disaster.

If those pipes blow, and if it's true they blew the first time due to a mix of natural gas and oil (and heat), then it's likely they will, and thus it is entirely possible the whole Atlantic and part of the Pacific will end up covered THICK in oil. There will be no way to clean it up and the oceans will die, along with our planet.


And all CNN talks about is the dumb bomber, this is a huge catasrophe.  

Are you people paying attention?

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Reply #10 - 05/03/10 at 12:57:00
 
JohnBoy, in answer of your question:

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Investigators delving into the possible cause of the massive gulf oil spill are focusing on the role of Houston-based Halliburton Co., the giant energy services company, which was responsible for cementing the drill into place below the water. The company acknowledged Friday that it had completed the final cementing of the oil well and pipe just 20 hours before the blowout last week.

In a letter to to Halliburton Chief Executive David J. Lesar on Friday, Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Beverly Hills) chairman of the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, and Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), chairman of the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations, called on Halliburton officials to provide all documents relating to "the possibility or risk of an explosion or blowout at the Deepwater Horizon rig and the status, adequacy, quality, monitoring, and inspection of the cementing work" by May 7.

Investigators delving into the possible cause of the massive gulf oil spill are focusing on the role of Houston-based Halliburton Co., the giant energy services company, which was responsible for cementing the drill into place below the water. The company acknowledged Friday that it had completed the final cementing of the oil well and pipe just 20 hours before the blowout last week.

Wherever Halliburton goes, so goes the war machine, and vice versa. From no-bid and no-account contracts in Iraq (and post-Katrina New Orleans, by the way) to a massive corporate presence in the Gulf region, these folks seem to have an acute capacity for making a buck on cataclysms of all sorts. Perhaps more to the point, they appear to be at the nexus of most disaster zones, including the erstwhile Bush Presidency and now the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill.





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Reply #11 - 05/03/10 at 13:18:57
 
Hey, Palin. How's that "drilly - spilly" thing workin' out for ya?  You stupid f**king twit. Angry

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Reply #12 - 05/03/10 at 13:26:13
 
Lifter -

Be nice, now.  The sky isn't falling, and the planet isn't dying.
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Reply #13 - 05/03/10 at 15:06:29
 
Jerry Eichenberger wrote on 05/03/10 at 13:26:13:
Lifter -

Be nice, now.  The sky isn't falling, and the planet isn't dying.

Thank god ,Jerry knows a way to fix the hole in the sea floor.
Go to it Jerry,we shall await with baited breath .
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Reply #14 - 05/03/10 at 15:56:03
 
Rather interesting account of what happened from the view point of an operator that was there -  claims are the radio show did verify the guy is who he said he was - likely has a muzzle on now:

http://www.marklevinshow.com/Article.asp?id=1790422&spid=32364
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