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Joe Friday YaBB Newbies Offline My AARP card is dated during the last century. Posts: 36 Beautiful Weiss Lake - Alabama Gender:	Cam Chain Advise 01/26/09 at 13:15:24 Here's where I'm at... Got the cover off and it looks as if my tensioner is almost all the way out. What's my next step? Can I get more slack by bending the back piece on the adjuster? Here is a picture: http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb138/SCRC80/sig/DSCF5587-1.jpg
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #1 - 01/26/09 at 13:39:31 You have 3 options: 1) bend the rear guide 2) buy or DIY mod the tensioner 3) replace chain and guides if you decide to bend the guide, there's a risk of the plastic breaking off.
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Reply #2 - 01/26/09 at 13:39:41

Options are:

a) replace Cam chain (I think they are $85 or $90 US). If you have to pay someone to do it, could be pricey since either the clutch or the gear has to come off to get the chain out. It's not a hard job if you have the right tools, just very tedious. Putting back together requires close attention to details.

b) Modify the arm of the tensioner to get a touch more life out of it.

EDIT: Verslagen you beat me to it........

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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #3 - 01/26/09 at 13:43:18 Hi Joe, you can do a quick search or check with Verslagy as an expert on the cam chain. A quick measurement by you in mm will help..how many miles on the engine. There are several fixes and yes, some have tried or at least thought about bending the guides to take up some of the slck. While i ws typing the man himself answered.
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Reply #4 - 01/26/09 at 15:39:06

Thanks fellows... I have edited the photo and added the chain measurements that were asked for. I show 0.445" or 11.303mm at the points indicated in the picture. The scoot has 20,000 miles on the clock, but I don't know if the chain has ever been worked on or not.

If I pull the adjuster will the necessary changes I need to make be evident? It looks like if I just replace the tensioner the new one will be in the same place as the old one. (Joe Friday ain't much of a wrench)

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Reply #5 - 01/26/09 at 16:25:38

Joe Friday wrote on 01/26/09 at 15:39:06:

Thanks fellows... I have edited the photo and added the chain measurements that were asked for. I show 0.445" or 11.303mm at the points indicated in the picture. The scoot has 20,000 miles on the clock, but I don't know if the chain has ever been worked on or not.

If I pull the adjuster will the necessary changes I need to make be evident? It looks like if I just replace the tensioner the new one will be in the same place as the old one. (Joe Friday ain't much of a wrench)

Ah, a newbe with common sense.
You got it, tensioners don't wear out, chain and guides do.
But if you leave it in this condition long, the hole for the plunger will oval and you'll need a new one.
20k is about the right mileage for that amount of wear, although you could have done better. Only a few have.
You can put in a verslavy http://suzukisavage.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1180206459

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Joe Friday YaBB Newbies Offline My AARP card is dated during the last century. Posts: 36 Beautiful Weiss Lake - Alabama Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #6 - 01/27/09 at 06:26:27 >>newbe with common sense<< Nah, just a newbe with a hell of a lot of experience at screwing up expensive stuff by jumping in too fast!... LOL You got mail, and I'll bump the other thread as well... Thanks!
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diamond jim Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 1425 North Alabama Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #7 - 01/27/09 at 06:48:59 I've got a 1500 miles on my '06 S40. Is there anything I should be doing now to minimize cam chain tension problems in the future or is it simply an inevitable problem down the road?
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Trippah Serious Thumper Offline I ride, therefore I am. Posts: 2517 central Mass Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #8 - 01/27/09 at 06:58:33 It's like death and taxes..inevitable; when it comes time at about 20K, you can look into the plunger modification and, if there are any around, the better chain. and who knows, someone may have invented a chain guide mod by then.
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #9 - 01/27/09 at 07:22:50 diamond jim wrote on 01/27/09 at 06:48:59: I've got a 1500 miles on my '06 S40. Is there anything I should be doing now to minimize cam chain tension problems in the future or is it simply an inevitable problem down the road? Take it from the ones that have 30k+ on their chains... 50 wt. oil Does Stinker use syn or just 50 wt ?
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Joe Friday YaBB Newbies Offline My AARP card is dated during the last century. Posts: 36 Beautiful Weiss Lake - Alabama Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #10 - 01/27/09 at 07:49:57 Would you fellers recommend replacing the chain guide when going to the new tensioner set up? Anyone done this?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Online Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28884 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #11 - 01/27/09 at 07:54:55 unless you take the head cover off, it's pretty hard to do. You should look at your guide for wear and cracking. I know it's hard to judge if you never seen one before. One guy had some of the plastic break away. Next question you have to ask yourself is whether you want to be there again.
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Joe Friday YaBB Newbies Offline My AARP card is dated during the last century. Posts: 36 Beautiful Weiss Lake - Alabama Gender:	Re: Cam Chain Advise Reply #12 - 01/27/09 at 08:00:20 How thick should it be?... I have nothing to judge how much wear has occured... Guess I could pull it out and take a pic of the thing...
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Reply #13 - 01/27/09 at 12:19:43

verslagen1 wrote on 01/27/09 at 07:22:50:

diamond jim wrote on 01/27/09 at 06:48:59:

I've got a 1500 miles on my '06 S40. Is there anything I should be doing now to minimize cam chain tension problems in the future or is it simply an inevitable problem down the road?

Take it from the ones that have 30k+ on their chains... 50 wt. oil

Does Stinker use syn or just 50 wt ?

Really? You recomend 50wt what brand?

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