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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #15 - 01/25/08 at 09:57:51

DanGill wrote on 01/25/08 at 06:08:20:

I got the MotionPro wrench, and the large blade was too thick to fit into the slot. I ground the sides of it down a bit, but it still seemed like it wasn't going into the slot all the way. I ended up using a hammer and large screwdriver to drift the plug loose, then turned it out with the next smaller blade. When I re-checked the valves I was able to use the medium blade to open the plug and re-seat it.

It seems like none of the blades really fits well. But it'll do.

Hmm, I got the MotionPro wrench and it worked just fine on mine.

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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #16 - 01/25/08 at 10:32:45

DanGill wrote on 01/25/08 at 06:08:20:

I got the MotionPro wrench, and the large blade was too thick to fit into the slot. I ground the sides of it down a bit, but it still seemed like it wasn't going into the slot all the way. I ended up using a hammer and large screwdriver to drift the plug loose, then turned it out with the next smaller blade. When I re-checked the valves I was able to use the medium blade to open the plug and re-seat it.

It seems like none of the blades really fits well. But it'll do.

Sorry that you were disappointed, but I guess that with any aftermarket tool you are gonna get a little bit of incompatibility...sort of a "Jack of All, and Master of None". The difference would be the getting the Suzuki special tool, but it'll come with a special price.

I just took this photo while working on Nervkiler's bike the other day. The middle one worked just fine, which is a contrast to the tool marks left by someone's previous attempts to remove the plug with some other tool.

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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #18 - 01/26/08 at 06:42:47

vroom1776 wrote on 01/25/08 at 11:11:31:

I made a tool with some angle iron and a grinder. pic in adjsuting your valves.

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Whatever works is what I say.

Just be forewarned by someone that's done it. You can crack that plug if using a screw driver and hammer. The aluminum in the bottom of that slot is thinner than the rest of the plug.

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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #19 - 01/27/08 at 14:26:32

Savage_Greg wrote on 01/25/08 at 10:32:45:

DanGill wrote on 01/25/08 at 06:08:20:

I got the MotionPro wrench, and the large blade was too thick to fit into the slot. I ground the sides of it down a bit, but it still seemed like it wasn't going into the slot all the way. I ended up using a hammer and large screwdriver to drift the plug loose, then turned it out with the next smaller blade. When I re-checked the valves I was able to use the medium blade to open the plug and re-seat it.

It seems like none of the blades really fits well. But it'll do.

Sorry that you were disappointed, but I guess that with any aftermarket tool you are gonna get a little bit of incompatibility...sort of a "Jack of All, and Master of None". The difference would be the getting the Suzuki special tool, but it'll come with a special price.

I just took this photo while working on Nervkiler's bike the other day. The middle one worked just fine, which is a contrast to the tool marks left by someone's previous attempts to remove the plug with some other tool.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b277/gmdinusa/Timing_Plug_Tool_1.jpg

That is the one I have. I really expected the large blade to fit better. My experience was the same as yours - the middle one works, but it could fit a lot better. Such is life.

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Removing the timing plug Reply #20 - 01/27/08 at 14:44:50 I guess that what you gotta realize is that you bought an aftermarket tool that is designed to fit hundreds, if not thousands of bikes over a few decades. Be kinda hard to have one blade for each particular bike, and either way, you still have 2 spare blades.
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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #21 - 01/27/08 at 19:21:44

Surely I'm not the only person here to own slot-head sockets?

IIRC their original purpose was for some kind of auto suspension
adjustment or something like that. They were available in a few
sizes (thickness).

Got them back in the 70s because of the same kind of slotted covers on the old Norton. Don't know what happened to the whitworth wrenches and sockets. My brother probably kept those since he kept his Norton a lot longer.

Guess it wouldn't take a lot of welding and grinding to take some flat bar and sockets and DIY some slot-head sockets.

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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #22 - 01/28/08 at 05:37:38

Savage_Greg wrote on 01/27/08 at 14:44:50:

I guess that what you gotta realize is that you bought an aftermarket tool that is designed to fit hundreds, if not thousands of bikes over a few decades.

Be kinda hard to have one blade for each particular bike, and either way, you still have 2 spare blades.
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Yeah, I got that. Haven't these manufacturers ever heard of standardization? Grin

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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #23 - 01/28/08 at 06:42:37

DanGill wrote on 01/28/08 at 05:37:38:

Savage_Greg wrote on 01/27/08 at 14:44:50:

I guess that what you gotta realize is that you bought an aftermarket tool that is designed to fit hundreds, if not thousands of bikes over a few decades.

Be kinda hard to have one blade for each particular bike, and either way, you still have 2 spare blades.
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Yeah, I got that. Haven't these manufacturers ever heard of standardization? Grin

Just be thankful that Mr Whitworth came up with the idea of standardising threads - rather than have every thread for every machine made anywhere in the world all turned to custom size and pitch.
But some of them still haven't learned with timing plugs - better ones just have a standard size hex key hole in the middle.

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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #24 - 01/28/08 at 06:48:28

DanGill wrote on 01/28/08 at 05:37:38:

Savage_Greg wrote on 01/27/08 at 14:44:50:

I guess that what you gotta realize is that you bought an aftermarket tool that is designed to fit hundreds, if not thousands of bikes over a few decades.

Be kinda hard to have one blade for each particular bike, and either way, you still have 2 spare blades.
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Yeah, I got that. Haven't these manufacturers ever heard of standardization? Grin

Yeah, that's it. Maybe they could just start making all bikes identical. Same everything. Just can't have everything the way you want, I guess.

Anyway, now that you have the wrench, whenever you decide to buy a different bike, take the wrench with you and find one that fits

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Re: Removing the timing plug
Reply #25 - 01/28/08 at 07:38:10

You could just give the old man who used the shotgun on the lug nut a call. I am sure he would gladly come "Help" you out... if you can stand his kinda help.

As for standardization, we have seen people all perform identically, as if standardized & synchronized for years. When it comes to screwing UP & screwing US, those in Washington DC operate flawlessy in unison.

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