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Re: Cam chain replacing instructions,
Reply #30 - 03/21/07 at 10:00:59

verslagen1 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

Greg, got a picture of penny in the gear trick?

Ya know, I never thought that view would be of any particular interest to anyone...hmmm, have to remember that on the reverse side....

I have done it, but this last time I grabbed a piece of scrap aluminum that was handy. It actually mashed up so nicely that it was hard to get back out. But it worked Tongue

You can use any soft metal...I've used some brass shim stock that I folded up a couple times for extra thickness. I did try a piece of wood once, and found the gears are much much harder...not a good choice

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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #31 - 03/21/07 at 10:17:49 I'm still having a hard time seeing the primary drive coming out of there...but I'll look at it again... Was it done with the older 68 to 36 gear ratio or this one at 67 to 37?
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28955 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #32 - 03/21/07 at 11:55:57 BTW: Greg, those are Helical gears not Bevel. Bevel gears are used to transmit motion to different axis orientation, most common 90°. Helical gear axis are parallel. The intent is to have continuous contact between the two gears to reduce impact stress.
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allan Ex Member	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #33 - 03/21/07 at 12:39:24 Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03: Was it done with the older 68 to 36 gear ratio or this one at 67 to 37? 4 speed box Greg have not tried on 5 speed so you may be right, allan.
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Re: Cam chain replacing instructions,
Reply #34 - 03/21/07 at 13:15:01

verslagen1 wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

BTW: Greg, those are Helical gears not Bevel.

Bevel gears are used to transmit motion to different axis orientation, most common 90°.

Helical gear axis are parallel. The intent is to have continuous contact between the two gears to reduce impact stress. Grin

My arms must have been too short Tongue

Yes, you're very right. The bevel gears would be on the speedo drive.

I'll just call them those "angled toothy things" from now on...unless they are straight cut, of course.

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Re: Cam chain replacing instructions,
Reply #35 - 03/21/07 at 13:19:22

Allan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

4 speed box Greg have not tried on 5 speed so you may be right,

allan.

How's that for a guess? It just happened to dawn on me about the primary gear changes. The 4 speed would have a smaller primary drive and larger primary driven...as long as the clutch basket stayed the same size (I guess it did), there might be more clearance.

I'll still check it again anyway.

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Re: Cam chain replacing instructions,
Reply #36 - 08/19/07 at 19:58:09

Allan wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03:

undo the nut as described (lefty) pull the gear as far of the splines as you can, gear will now be at an angle rock the clutch easing the gear out at the same time,

like i said its fiddly and doesn't always come straight off but with patience it will, greg I'm sure with your knowledge you'll be slipping it off in seconds once you have the feal.

allan.

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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #37 - 08/20/07 at 00:30:30 Poking a penny in works I know, but the idea just bugs me a bit, so , since there was an old belt handy, it got folded & jammed in the gears. It cut it some, then bound up & the nut came loose.
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Savage_Greg Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Don't go around your ass to reach your elbow... Posts: 7844 SW Washington State Gender:	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #38 - 08/20/07 at 11:29:11 This is how I do it.... ...and no primary gears were harmed in this demonstration A simple piece of scrap aluminum is good for your toolbox. And you need the correct socket... And the hardest part was holding the torque wrench steady at 80 lb/ft while operating the shutter release...
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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #39 - 09/19/07 at 22:12:37 Savage_Greg wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:03: Got a penny, piece of brass or aluminum (that's what I used a couple weeks ago). I tried your penny idea today. Didn't work, it ate the penny .
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verslagen1 YaBB Moderator ModSquad Offline Where there's a will, I want to be in it. Posts: 28955 L.A. California Gender:	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #40 - 09/20/07 at 11:53:04 It ate it? must of been hungry. try stacking up 2
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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #41 - 09/20/07 at 13:41:34 yeah, that's what I figured too, so I used an old driver bit instead. Apparently it wasn't hungry enough to eat that.
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justin_o_guy2 Serious Thumper Offline What happened? Posts: 55279 East Texas, 1/2 dallas/la.	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #42 - 09/20/07 at 14:58:16 Yoni, I believe the idea is to use something that cant mar the gear face. Thats why I went with the leather. I KNOW in my head copper & aluminum cant hurt the gear, but if I can make it work without anything hard enough to put a lump on my head going in between gears, I will do it that way.
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Yonuh Adisi FSO Serious Thumper Offline Savage Jedi (Knight) Posts: 3622 Pilot Valley NV, aka Tatooine Gender:	Re: Cam chain replacing instructions, Reply #43 - 09/20/07 at 15:11:50 The old driver bit worked like a charm and it didn't even damage the gear teeth.
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Re: Cam chain replacing instructions,
Reply #44 - 06/13/08 at 22:01:25

I got my new chain a few days ago and put it in a bath of oil until I could get to it. As I read this I'm thinking holy crap I have no idea what some of this stuff is. How hard is this really? I'm pretty handy but why do you need a torque wrench for the removal? Obviously this looks easier than it is? Also, many of the step by step pics are missing from the posts. Any help or suggestions will be appreciated.

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