ok i found out that my dad does have a mic,the old drive (friction)plate is 137 thousandths,and the driven plate is 64 thousandths .

they are 135 tousandths, not worn much at all.

i'm sitting in the dark, trying too stay awake ,i'll measure everything tomarow.

i trully dont know what plate i grabbed

Here are my clutch plate measurements.
Friction plate #2 (thick one)        0.146"
Friction plate #1                          0.119"
Steel plate                                   0.062"
Springs                                         1.378"

All of these values fall well within the standard range and are not within Suzuki's replacement range yet the clutch does not operate properly. BTW the fingers on the clutch basket were only notched slightly but I filed them flat.

I would like to see everyone who takes their clutch apart, to post their plate and spring measurements here to see if in fact our clutch is failing with good spec plates or not. Perhaps the problem is not plate related but a different clutch delivery culprit. Maybe the recommended springs are too weak. The only other anomaly I discovered on the dis assembly was the clutch nut was hand tight only (about 1 ft. lb. torque). Thank goodness the retaining washer held. I have to assume the previous owner is responsible, but I do ask others to determine the torque prior to removal. It should be 36-50 ft. lb. of torque. I doubt this is a common problem but we can eliminate this one quickly if we can get a few more responses.

ok here it is

friction plate#2= 3.5mm

friction plate #1=3.0mm

claw width#2=16 mm

claw width#1=16 mm

its really strange because they are all way in side the service specs.i believe the heat glazes the plates making them very hard and glassy,and the heat also weakens the springs,imo

I am still waiting on a replacement pressure plate before I can reassemble the clutch, so I measured the new Barnett plates. Guess what? They are the same thickness as the old plates I am replacing. I knew the old plates were still within normal ranges but I expected new plates would stop the slipping. Maybe so, but I now highly suspect plate wear is not an issue for the Savage, with the real culprit being insufficient spring tension on the clutch pack. Another thing that surprised me was the free play in the clutch basket when all the plates are inserted. There is easily room for one more friction disc and possibly another steel one as well. Rather than put in extra plates this time, I will preload the springs with washers I have made up.
The replacement Barnett springs are 2mm longer than the old ones but use a slightly thinner coil.
BTW I am replacing my pressure plate because I found cracks in the boss right where it attaches to the plate. I doubt this has anything to do with the slipping problems of the clutch plates . I am changing it now for reliability reasons.