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Commando_Al Ex Member	savage racer 09/28/05 at 12:00:03 Finally have my old triumph squared away, and am working on my Savage special. 1) Have any of you tried to raise the compression on one of these? 2) Also what size carb is good to use? I want to go with a Mikuni. 3) Where do you guys get used parts? I didn't see much on ebay, and I need a clutch cover.
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Re: savage racer
Reply #1 - 09/28/05 at 14:16:36

Welcome to the group! There are much better carb gurus than I so I'll defer to them on that issue. For parts and such you may want to take a peek at the Best Sources for Savage Parts post in the Technical Corner. Just don't post anything in it unless it's a contribution to the document. Questions and discussion go here in the Rubber Side Down. Don't forget the search facility on the site. It works pretty well and there's a lot of info already compiled. Just be sure to use a way-back setting greater than the default of 7 days. I use 500 to be sure.

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Reply #2 - 09/29/05 at 14:38:40

Hi Commando_Al,
my first piece of advice would be...
see if you can squeeze a DR750 engine in the frame, that engine is definitely powerful!
...or an 800 for that matter...

Else, do some healthy head porting, replace japanese carb for proper Dell'Orto (off a wrecked italian bike) or even a Bing (off a BMW) I have never worked on a jap carb but if most classic tuners use Dell'Ortos on classic cars&bikes (European ones of course) then there must be a reason. And a K&N or similar filter.

Exhaust: ask around on track days and see what the racers prefer, it's a matter of backpressure else the bike will burp all over the place but will actually be slower.

Change the belt drive to chain so you can play around with the final drive ratio, even adding or subtracting just one tooth from the front sprocket can change the ''feel''.

Move the footpegs a little more to the rear, improves handling in tight bends considerably.

Try to ensure tire size is as similar as possible front&rear, it helps ''feel'' the bike. Also, good grippy ''wet weather'' tires, any old man can ride on semislicks... until it gets a little cloudy or dewy in the morning...

Make the bike lighter... stop eating all those burgers and shave off a few pounds Grin

(that's the advice they gave ME!!!)
(sorry, no FAT smiley here)

Maurizio

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Commando_Al Ex Member	Re: savage racer Reply #3 - 09/30/05 at 09:09:24 Any of you guys seen this? savage_cafe_1
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vroom1776 Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 2110 Gender:	Re: savage racer Reply #4 - 09/30/05 at 09:31:02 Looks more like a street fighter... and there was this one on eaby...
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Reply #5 - 09/30/05 at 15:20:39

Commando_Al wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09:

Any of you guys seen this?

savage_cafe_1

It's sad that there's not a market for bikes like that 'cause I'd love to have one. There's still a loyal following for the Yamaha SR500 & 600 on the Thumper Page website. I wish I knew how he relocated those footpegs. Been thinking about that & how to do it.

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Commando_Al Ex Member	Re: savage racer Reply #6 - 09/30/05 at 15:25:09 To be honest, I'm just going to a different frame.
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Mambo Ex Member	Re: savage racer Reply #7 - 09/30/05 at 15:31:28 Commando_Al wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09: Any of you guys seen this? savage_cafe_1 darn, this looks great. Some french guy's selling something close to that (but with brand new Triumph). http://www.mecatwin.com/en/motos/triumph/index.htm
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Reply #8 - 10/01/05 at 07:04:50

The tank on that is super sweet. I heard there's a company in France making race parts for the Thruxton. I have a Hinckley Daytona that I ride daily, and when the time comes to change out, I'm getting a Thruxton. Of course, since I hope to hit 100k on the Daytona, it'll be a while.

Back to the Savage, I have an Triumph/BSA wet frame that I had intended to use for the Savage, but the engine's too tall. I saw one set up that way, but the guy put the engine in crooked so it would fit. If I wanted a slanted cylinder, I'd get a DR650 motor instead.

I have a GS750 frame also, and I'm thinking of using that. It's tall enough, but I'd likely need to cut it up to shorten the wheelbase. This project should be done by the time my kid's out of college (he's three months old).

http://nort_comm.tripod.com/elias/image/029.jpg

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Commando Al Guest	Re: savage racer Reply #9 - 10/01/05 at 07:08:43 Sort of off-topic, but speaking of DR650's there's a DR650-based chopper in the latest issue of The Horse. Super-homemade, and possibly of interest to the Suzuki thumper enthusiast.
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