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sidekick Ex Member	Perplexed 09/07/05 at 12:38:34 OK folks, here's my preplexion (is that a real word?) 1997 Savage - 14K / price around 2K vs 1999 VS1400 Intruder - 10K / price 3K Which would you choose and why? Thanks in advance for your participation
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Cindi Knox Junior Member 2005 No Login Offline Iron Butt Association Member since 1997 Posts: 58 Four Miles From Minooka Gender:	Re: Perplexed Reply #1 - 09/07/05 at 12:42:23 The Intruder. 1) I already have 1 1997 Savage (with twice as many miles (and I haven't been riding in the last 4 years)) 2) The Savage is small (in ergonomics and displacement) and I need a larger touring bike 3) I think I have enough experience to handle the larger bike without killing myself
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Reply #2 - 09/07/05 at 12:48:22

i would go with the intruder myself,thats the right price for it too.its a much better bike than the savage and a bunch more power,better milege too.one big up is u can sell it for alot more cash if need be.if u do any highway travel the intruder is a must.

the savage is a great bike but with 14k miles its not worth it. If it had about 7k miles on it it be a good buy.

My opinion Undecided

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Reelthing Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Fish or ride that is the question Posts: 5397 Houston,Tx Gender:	Re: Perplexed Reply #3 - 09/07/05 at 12:48:35 I guess it all depends on what you want - but if both of these are in fine cond - the Intruder is priced below KBB.com retail a good bit (about a grand) and the savage is dead on it
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Reply #4 - 09/07/05 at 12:52:43

i'd go with the intruder but i dont have 2k or 3k so i dont get either 8) anyway i'd have to guess

1) the diff between 2k and 3k is 1k thats a lot

2) most people in here are begginers they, they want something to learn on. A 1400 is "big and scary" a 650 is small and great starter. Most people are too scared to even start on a 650 much less a 1400. Its like most people refer to POT. Its an entry level drug. usually pretty easy to get. Gets out of the system quick. Some think its harmless not very addictive etc...... They say its the entry level drug to others (while i think this is crap the theory applies). some will move on to bigger drugs. other will just stick to pot for ever some wont like it and quit. Some will buy bigger bikes. Some will ride the savage forever. A few wont like it and quit riding.

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RadarORiley Serious Thumper Offline No one notices how you ride until you fall off. Posts: 863 West Of Weatherford, Texas Gender:	Re: Perplexed Reply #5 - 09/07/05 at 15:08:16 Personally, I'd go with the savage. Not because of price or miles, but because I can almost touch the ground on it and if I dump it, I can pick it up. I sold a V-Star to buy my Savage. Also bought my daughter one.
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PerrydaSavage Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Riding "The Rock"! Posts: 3522 Republic of Newfoundland Gender:	Re: Perplexed Reply #6 - 09/07/05 at 15:28:07 That VS1400 sounds like a good deal for a larger displacement motorcycle ... 'round here the 1400 'Truder is a fave amongst D.I.Y. customizers ... have seen a few really tasty home-grown 1400 Choppers in the fast few months. BTW ... curious ... anyone know what the Canadian Blue Book value of a mint '03 LS650 (4500kms) might be?
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Re: Perplexed
Reply #7 - 09/07/05 at 17:45:16

OT -- perplex comes to us from the Latin perplexus, from per- thoroughly + plexus involved. You are talking about which bike to get involved with and thus you are pre- prior + plexus involved. The difference between a 'real' word and a recently coined word is just a matter of time and acceptance.

With regard to the bikes. I demand lightweight. The Savage is 180 pounds lighter than the 1400 Intruder. I have no need for more speed/power than what Thumper provides.

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threezukes Ex Member	Re: Perplexed Reply #8 - 09/07/05 at 17:57:15 The Intruder sound like a real steal. Are you sure thats the correct price?
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babbalou Serious Thumper Offline Posts: 814 Lewisville, Texas Gender:	Re: Perplexed Reply #9 - 09/07/05 at 18:03:36 The Intruder. I like the Savage but that's a great price for a low mileage Intruder. If you're tall, you'll like the extra room.
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Reply #10 - 09/07/05 at 19:44:04

Sidekick - Where are you gonna ride? In-town, country roads or highways? And what's your skill level? New, or been at it awhile?

Me personally, I'd go for the Intruder. I've already got a Savage. I'd keep it around for shorter trips and general entertainment. The Intruder would be my pick for longer trips. The Savage is not an ideal choice for serious distance cruising, although it can and is being done.

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Reply #11 - 09/07/05 at 19:44:53

Paladin. wrote on 12/31/69 at 16:00:09:

OT -- perplex comes to us from the Latin perplexus, from per- thoroughly + plexus involved. You are talking about which bike to get involved with and thus you are pre- prior + plexus involved. The difference between a 'real' word and a recently coined word is just a matter of time and acceptance.

Good grief Undecided

I'm having a headache reading this Grin

Here my 2 cents:

It's all depend on the level of experience of the rider and how mechanical inclined that rider is.

Experienced rider: Instruder
Beginner: Savage
Can do most stuff on the bike:Intruder(more work) or Savage(less)
Don't want to get thou hand dirty:either I or S

It's not just the cost of the bike that you have to consider but also the long run cost of maintaining it. Like Paladin often said K.I.S.S.

Happy deciding;

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Reply #12 - 09/08/05 at 06:30:17

First, let me say I don't consider the Savage to be a "beginner's bike". I consider it a simple-to-maintain and lightweight bike. The Intruder is larger, heavier and more complex. I'd suggest the Savage for single-rider general riding, around-town commuting, etc. If you are over about 5' 10", you should try both out to see which is more comfortable. Depending on your proportions, the Intruder is likely to fit you better. If you plan on a lot of long-range rides, the Intruder might be a better choice due to increased power and more importantly - fuel capacity. However, the Savage is quite competent for long rides as long as you stop for fuel. Personally, I like to stop to stretch every now and again, so the range is fine with me. Now, if you plan on riding 2-up more than rarely, go with the Intruder.

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Reply #13 - 09/08/05 at 06:39:23

I've been riding a long time and love my Savage. But, faced with the same choice of bikes, I'd definitely choose the Intruder. The price/value ratio is just better; lower miles and only $1k more. If you've got the $3k to spend, you'll get better resale from the Intruder. Plus, the VS1400 is one sweet ride! It runs good, looks good, and sounds baaaad...It's air cooled for simplicity, (unlike the VS800 which is liquid-cooled), but it does have a drive-shaft which is good

On the side of the Savage, though, it will likely get better gas mileage, if that's your motivation. It is lightweight and fun to ride. It's relatively easy to work on even for a novice. And, with the right mods, has all the power you'll ever want or need, even for highway riding.

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Savage_Rob Serious Thumper Alliance Member Offline Mechanically Inclined Amateur Posts: 6972 Texas (Dallas area) Gender:	Re: Perplexed Reply #14 - 09/08/05 at 06:59:57 I have to agree on the price-point with respect to mileage and resale value. The Intruder is a better deal if you have the extra $1K and the bike fits your needs... assuming they are both in good condition.
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